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Old 04-04-2008, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Savannah GA/Lk Hopatcong NJ
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I just got a Direct Message stating that my last comment wasn't nice and a reference was made to this article:

A new report by the Justice Policy Institute confirms that anti-gang legislation that advocates locking up gang members, charging them with status crimes and charging more juveniles as adults doesn't work (broken link). In fact, it adds to the gang problem.
Mass arrests, stiff prison sentences often served with other gang members and other strategies that focus on law enforcement rather than intervention actually strengthen gang ties and further marginalize angry young men, according to the Justice Policy Institute, a Washington, D.C., think tank that advocates alternatives to incarceration.
"We're talking about 12-, 13-, 14-, 15-year-olds whose involvement in gangs is likely to be ephemeral unless they are pulled off the street and put in prison, where they will come out with much stronger gang allegiances," said Judith Greene, co-author of "Gang Wars: The Failure of Enforcement Tactics and the Need for Effective Public Safety Strategies."



So I apologize. Don't lock up the gang members. I was so wrong. They need help, encouragement and mentors.

Well geez did they offer any suggestion on what we are supposed to do with them??? Let them run rampant on the streets terrorizing & intimidating people

Somebody actually DM you to tell you your comment wasn't nice???
That's what you usually do to criminals ...lock em up
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Old 04-04-2008, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Savannah GA/Lk Hopatcong NJ
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Not the first time, believe it or not. One was picked up in Canada during a gang raid - Alligators are sometimes used as their symbol/mascot.

To bad the alligator didn't dine on them...
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Old 04-04-2008, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Savannah GA/Lk Hopatcong NJ
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Well, it is true that gangs are strongest within the prison system. The prison system sustains them, builds bonds in a way the outside can not.

I'm not saying people who break the law shouldn't go to prison. But maybe they shouldn't all be locked up together. Split 'em up. Send some of our Clinton Posse boys out to a prison in LA, some to upstate NY and a few to Gitmo

True....I've read on occasion East Jersey is in lokdown because of the gangs...yeah prisoner exchange we take some from out of state and in return send some out....geez...Angola in Louisiana sounds like a nice place to send some of these thugs
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Old 04-04-2008, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Piscataway, New Jersey
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And what's with the racial segregation in prisons? We're afraid they'll kill each other? Why is that such a bad thing?

Mix the races up, prevent race-based gangs from forming in the first place. If some of them kill each other, so be it. Inshallah, as our enemies would say
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Old 04-04-2008, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Atlantic Highlands NJ/Ponte Vedra FL/NYC
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I just got a Direct Message stating that my last comment wasn't nice and a reference was made to this article:


A new report by the Justice Policy Institute
that group has no credibility
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Old 04-04-2008, 03:52 PM
 
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Inshallah, as our enemies would say
Our "enemies" say "God willing" or "If it is God's will"?

I would hazard a guess a lot of the USA's enemies say "f** the USA" more than that...
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Old 04-04-2008, 06:36 PM
 
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Well, I really wouldn't want to see a 12 year old behind bars. I do agree with that much. How does a 12 year old (what is that 8th grade) get involved in a gang?
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Old 04-04-2008, 07:33 PM
 
Location: High Bridge
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Well, I really wouldn't want to see a 12 year old behind bars. I do agree with that much. How does a 12 year old (what is that 8th grade) get involved in a gang?
By having friends and family in a gang, by seeing how easy it is for gang members to get money and respect on the street, because dealers know the 12yr olds caught with drugs get lesser charges - making them good couriers, etc.
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Old 04-04-2008, 09:39 PM
 
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lock them up for good or at least make them pay eye for eye.. ie. if they kill somebody, kill them.. if they beat someone up, let that someone beat them up.. if they destroy a family, destroy their family.. maybe I'm too drastic, but this gang stuff has to stop..
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Old 04-27-2008, 12:18 PM
 
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Default girl-973-908-732 gangs in Plainfield

How does a 12 year-old gets involved in a gang? LACK OF PARENTAL LOVE, GUIDANCE, DISCIPLINE. The gang becomes the family he/she does not have.
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