moving from FL to s. jersey/income tax question (Camden: real estate market, crime)

[dmccauley]

Originally Posted by FlyersFan

Its not the system......its the teacher.....and by reading all the complaints in the New Jersey forum it would seem that people are generally unhappy with the education system in New Jersey and the COST of it.

It most certainly does apply because the services your getting for your tax dollar in NJ is not included in the taxes here in Florida. I don't live in a condo. I live in a home. The association fees include my garbage pick up and street cleaning. Maybe you should brush up on Florida. And before you comment again no, I don't have a golf course in my back yard there is no work out facilities, its just a regular development with no added extras. As far as education is concerned everyone has a gripe no matter where they live about educating your child, After living in both places I would pay the higher tax to educate my children in NJ schools. As someone pointed out in a thread I had started NJ teaches the students to solve problems and Florida teaches memorization.

[FlyersFan]

Originally Posted by dmccauley

It most certainly does apply because the services your getting for your tax dollar in NJ is not included in the taxes here in Florida. I don't live in a condo. I live in a home. The association fees include my garbage pick up and street cleaning. Maybe you should brush up on Florida. And before you comment again no, I don't have a golf course in my back yard there is no work out facilities, its just a regular development with no added extras. As far as education is concerned everyone has a gripe no matter where they live about educating your child, After living in both places I would pay the higher tax to educate my children in NJ schools. As someone pointed out in a thread I had started NJ teaches the students to solve problems and Florida teaches memorization.

Then your paying TOO much.......my kids live in Ocala in a desirable southeast neighborhood and pay $1500 for taxes for a very nice 3 bedroom 2 bath rancher with an attached 2 car garage, deck and jaccuzzi......yes....garbage collection costs about $30 a month.....but thats peanuts compared to $10,000 in yearly taxes up here.....not including the state tax and state income tax.....as far as the school systems go.....if we could get rid of George Bushes no child left behind and let those that know what needs to be done lead things would improve everywhere immensely !!!!

[CaptainNJ]

Originally Posted by NYC1DAY

Like I said..... NJ is expensive because of access to NYC, Philly, The Hamptons, beaches and Atlantic City.

this is not an accurate statement. just because the area is desirable doesnt give the government the justification to rape us in taxes. it explains higher property values but not higher tax rates.

[DailyJournalist]

Originally Posted by FlyersFan

my kids live in Ocala in a desirable southeast neighborhood and pay $1500 for taxes for a very nice 3 bedroom 2 bath rancher

Thats because its in Ocala. Desirable and Ocala should never be in the same sentence.

[dmccauley]

Originally Posted by FlyersFan

Then your paying TOO much.......my kids live in Ocala in a desirable southeast neighborhood and pay $1500 for taxes for a very nice 3 bedroom 2 bath rancher with an attached 2 car garage, deck and jaccuzzi......yes....garbage collection costs about $30 a month.....but thats peanuts compared to $10,000 in yearly taxes up here.....not including the state tax and state income tax.....as far as the school systems go.....if we could get rid of George Bushes no child left behind and let those that know what needs to be done lead things would improve everywhere immensely !!!!

I chose to live in an area that was close to the beach (8 miles) and similar in amenities with the ones I was use to back home. I would never be able to live in Ocala its not my kind of lifestyle. Way to laid back and country for me.

[FlyersFan]

Originally Posted by DailyJournalist

Thats because its in Ocala. Desirable and Ocala should never be in the same sentence.

Like someone who thinks Collingswood is desireable would know the meaning of desirable ? Have you checked your muskrat traps down at the Cooper River to see if dinner for this evening has arrived yet ?

[DailyJournalist]

Originally Posted by dmccauley

I would never be able to live in Ocala its not my kind of lifestyle.

Exactly

[gradstudent77]

People who would give up the culture and everything else that our area has to offer for a bigger house make me sick to my stomach. Stainless steel kitchen, x,xxx sq ft mcmansion, etc does not mean you are rich, especially when that mcmansion is in a place like florida.

[DailyJournalist]

Originally Posted by gradstudent77

People who would give up the culture and everything else that our area has to offer for a bigger house make me sick to my stomach. Stainless steel kitchen, x,xxx sq ft mcmansion, etc does not mean you are rich, especially when that mcmansion is in a place like florida.

Thats exactly how I feel.

[gradstudent77]

Originally Posted by FlyersFan

I spend a significant amount of time in Florida yearly and find just the opposite. As I stated in my original post to the OP taxes here in New Jersey will quickly eat up a good portion of that $60,000.......$10,000 in property taxes is not uncommon and if he attempts to live next to MoorestownResident then he can expect to pay $20,000+ a year.

You don't need to own a home, especially not a single-family detached house. There are loads of condos and townhomes with lower taxes than that and there are a bunch of condos, townhouses, and even single family homes in nj that can be bought on a $60k income. Will you have jet skis and all that other stupid s***? Probably not, but I would rather live in a rented shoebox in NJ/nyc than own a house in 75% of america.