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Old 09-26-2015, 04:31 PM
 
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They took over the janitor unions and don't respect non albanians at the job.
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Old 09-26-2015, 06:54 PM
 
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Europeans are very discriminating. Northerners discriminate against the southerners. Cities against country folks. French against Italians. It's worse in the Balkans. Take the gypsies for example.

It's naive to think Albanians don't discriminate.
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Old 09-26-2015, 07:04 PM
 
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Europeans are very discriminating. Northerners discriminate against the southerners. Cities against country folks. French against Italians. It's worse in the Balkans. Take the gypsies for example.

It's naive to think Albanians don't discriminate.
White people being white people.
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Old 09-28-2015, 09:02 AM
 
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I've seen some episodes of Law & Order and Blue Bloods featuring menacing Albanians.

Seems they have replaced the Irish and Italians as Hollywood's Tough White Guys.
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Old 08-20-2016, 03:57 PM
 
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I have dated an Albanian man for two years, we broke up because I moved but four years later we are still ever so close sexually/mentally and physically. What I can say is YES they are definitely caring, passionate, know- it-all's, over-confident, great providers and VERY possessive like if they call you their's your their's but not in the sense of "marriage" do keep that in mind. Some may be "Racists" but not the sense of color but culture. I mean it's easier to always date someone of your own race because you understand each other food, language and all. For Albanians it's like a "Alice in wonderland effect" lol. I know he loves me but he would never marry me because "I am not Albanian and it goes against his culture". Call it crap but I respect that, that's something most people have issues with (not different from practicing sex with no strings attached ) Plus BIGGEST fear for MOST NOT ALL, is being disowned by FAMiLY. and betraying their culture. That is the #1 pride for them over everything else. There are a few Albanians (particulary men) that will take the risk and marry you if you are black/hispanic specially if they are from the Bronx, but it's not guarantee the one your with will be that one
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Old 08-20-2016, 06:46 PM
 
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Known a few Albanians myself. I don't think they are any different from most Europeans when it comes to not trusting other nationalities. I found that even Albanians of different regions are leery of other regions. Same with Italians for example.

I have found most Albanians in the Bronx come from Kosovo or Montenegro, and they have been separated from the Albanians of Albania for almost a hundred years. So they don't seem to closely associate with each other.
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Old 08-20-2016, 10:36 PM
 
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Albania and it's people are divided by region and religion. Most Albanians are Muslim and they side with the Turks. Turks brought thier culture and Islamic faith to Albania. Turks have the biggest cultural impact on Albania. Southern Albania bordering greece is very hellinized. These Albanians have more in common with their neighboring Greeks compared to regular Albanians. Also southern Albania has strong greek ties especially with States like Epruis which was a Greek Kingdom what is now modern day Albania. Also Albanians in southern Albania are greek othrodox. Than you have Catholic Albanians who live in the mountain and on the coast opposite the Adriatic for Italy. These Albanian are very Italian. This is what I have noticed. Albanians are also very clannish, especially the women.
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Old 08-21-2016, 05:31 AM
 
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Albania and it's people are divided by region and religion. Most Albanians are Muslim and they side with the Turks. Turks brought thier culture and Islamic faith to Albania. Turks have the biggest cultural impact on Albania. Southern Albania bordering greece is very hellinized. These Albanians have more in common with their neighboring Greeks compared to regular Albanians. Also southern Albania has strong greek ties especially with States like Epruis which was a Greek Kingdom what is now modern day Albania. Also Albanians in southern Albania are greek othrodox. Than you have Catholic Albanians who live in the mountain and on the coast opposite the Adriatic for Italy. These Albanian are very Italian. This is what I have noticed. Albanians are also very clannish, especially the women.
When Roman empire broke up in two, the border cut Albania in half. North of Dyrrhachium (Durres, Durazzo) belonged to Rome, hence Catholics, South went to Constantinople, hence Orthodox.

Conversion to Islam in the 1700s wasn't simply by region, but also by altitude. Cities, valleys converted while more remote, mountainous people didn't. Turks levied heavier taxation on Christians, although some Albanians converted in order to have careers, administrative or military.

This explains why a country of 3-4 million people, the size of Rhode Island has three religions.

In the 1800s Albanians started their own Renaissance movement, and one of their main uniting theme was that the Albanian religion is Albanianism. This also explains the inter-faith marriages.

Fast forward to 1967 -- Socialist regime of Hoxha outlawed religion completely, until 1991 when the students overthrew the Socialist regime into a democratic, pro-western, pro-capitalist one.

Religious identity seems to be of very little significance to Albanians when I am there. They identify themselves with other things. I have never run into any Albanian in Albania who says "hey, I am Arben, and I am a Muslim." They will say though "Hey I am from Korca."

BTW, In the 90s I worked in the country as an expat, and have been back there several times. Since Kosovo became part of Yugoslavia, it has a different twist on its identity.
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Old 08-21-2016, 02:59 PM
 
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When Roman empire broke up in two, the border cut Albania in half. North of Dyrrhachium (Durres, Durazzo) belonged to Rome, hence Catholics, South went to Constantinople, hence Orthodox.

Conversion to Islam in the 1700s wasn't simply by region, but also by altitude. Cities, valleys converted while more remote, mountainous people didn't. Turks levied heavier taxation on Christians, although some Albanians converted in order to have careers, administrative or military.

This explains why a country of 3-4 million people, the size of Rhode Island has three religions.

In the 1800s Albanians started their own Renaissance movement, and one of their main uniting theme was that the Albanian religion is Albanianism. This also explains the inter-faith marriages.

Fast forward to 1967 -- Socialist regime of Hoxha outlawed religion completely, until 1991 when the students overthrew the Socialist regime into a democratic, pro-western, pro-capitalist one.

Religious identity seems to be of very little significance to Albanians when I am there. They identify themselves with other things. I have never run into any Albanian in Albania who says "hey, I am Arben, and I am a Muslim." They will say though "Hey I am from Korca."

BTW, In the 90s I worked in the country as an expat, and have been back there several times. Since Kosovo became part of Yugoslavia, it has a different twist on its identity.
South Albania has always been greek. Eprius was located in Albania, and Alexander the great mother, Olympia is from modern day Albania. But is llyrian. Catholic Albanians lived in isolated areas. This is true. Muslim Albanians made up the bulk of the Turkish millet system. Albanians were part of the elite Turkish jannisary Corp. Albanians helped bring down Constantinople in 1453. Albanians even held high positions. In the Ottoman system such as vizier.
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Old 08-21-2016, 09:16 PM
 
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South Albania has always been greek. Eprius was located in Albania, and Alexander the great mother, Olympia is from modern day Albania. But is llyrian. Catholic Albanians lived in isolated areas. This is true. Muslim Albanians made up the bulk of the Turkish millet system. Albanians were part of the elite Turkish jannisary Corp. Albanians helped bring down Constantinople in 1453. Albanians even held high positions. In the Ottoman system such as vizier.
What South of Albania is -- that's a dispute Greece and Albania have been having for decades, maybe even a century or two.

Official Albanian stats state that 3% are Greek, hellenikoi. It's also a known fact that many Albanian nationals immigrated to Greece at the fall of Socialism 1990-1991 and many still do. Many of them are now Greek citizens in Greece and plenty go back and forth.

From a national perspective, Albanian and Greeks are two distinct nationalities, even the Southern Albanians, with very different loutuages and national identity.

Before 1991 Greek minorities were primarily in the Riviera, and close to Gjirokaster.

Likewise, there are Albanian minorities in Greece. Keep in mind that these nations did not self-determine their borders. Great powers, like UK, France, Russia, Germany did sometime in the early 1900.

Epyrus is a huge issue with Greeks. They will never accept Epyrus to be Albanian.

Albanians of course have the opposite view. Pyrrheus victory comes from Epyros. Pyrrheus was king of Phyrrhea and although he won a battle, he suffered huge losses -- hence pyrric victory.

Yes, you are correct. Many Albanians achieved high ranks in the Ottoman Empire. Many people don't know but Mohammad Ali, founder of modern Egypt, was an turkish general from Albania.

Going even further back in history, several Roman Emperors were Illyrian who many believe Albanians derive from.
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