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No..in fact it was Cubans and PRs which created Salsa in NYC, designed the Flags for each country, and spent many a NY nights plotting independence. We have far more in common than most people realize, culturally, racially, historically, and socially. These were the last two colonies under the Spanish Crown, and received substantial Spanish and European loyalists in Spain's attempt to maintain control. Their histories and cultures, as a result, are intertwined.
Are there a representative Cuban population in NYC? I know Puerto Ricans and Dominicans are represented in NYC, but what about Cubans? Cubans are mainly represented in Miami. I have always wondered of there are a represented in NYC.
Yes there still are some pure Cubans in Hamilton Heights, Harlem as well as in Washington Heights. Some of us like myself are mixed now, but we know our heritage.
Were there any tension between Puerto Ricans and Cubans?
There was some tensions with teenager in the 40's and 50's that first moved uptown Manhattan from the Lower East Side. Both groups have always lived around each other since the late 1800's down there in the LES. So these were newer arrivals in the late 40's and 50's. But it was minimal.
No..in fact it was Cubans and PRs which created Salsa in NYC, designed the Flags for each country, and spent many a NY nights plotting independence. We have far more in common than most people realize, culturally, racially, historically, and socially. These were the last two colonies under the Spanish Crown, and received substantial Spanish and European loyalists in Spain's attempt to maintain control. Their histories and cultures, as a result, are intertwined.
A Dominican man (Johnny Pacheco) also had alot to do with the creation of Salsa. All 3 countries have very similar culture.
Caribbean Hispanics are different from their South American counterparts.
PR, DR, and Cubans have a lot of similarities among one another than they do with South Americans.
Puerto Ricans and Cubans have a lot more in common between them than Dominicans do with either of the two nationalities. The reason for this is that the Spanish presence in both Cuba and Puerto Rico was very strong and very recent. Cuba in particular was always regarded as another province of Spain. Puerto Rico was regarded as a colony; but the Spanish influence was very strong. Spain lost control of both Cuba and Puerto Rico after the Spanish American War in 1898, which is very recent when compared with other Latin American Spanish colonies.
Dominican Republic cut its ties with Spain 200 years before Cuba and Puerto Rico did. For a time it was a French colony along with Haiti. In fact, I would say Dominican Republic has more of a shared history with Haiti than it does with Puerto Rico or Cuba.
In any case, I think it is acurate to say that Caribean nations have more in common between them than they do with South American or Central American countries.
Puerto Ricans and Cubans have a lot more in common between them than Dominicans do with either of the two nationalities. The reason for this is that the Spanish presence in both Cuba and Puerto Rico was very strong and very recent. Cuba in particular was always regarded as another province of Spain. Puerto Rico was regarded as a colony; but the Spanish influence was very strong. Spain lost control of both Cuba and Puerto Rico after the Spanish American War in 1898, which is very recent when compared with other Latin American Spanish colonies.
Dominican Republic cut its ties with Spain 200 years before Cuba and Puerto Rico did. For a time it was a French colony along with Haiti. In fact, I would say Dominican Republic has more of a shared history with Haiti than it does with Puerto Rico or Cuba.
In any case, I think it is acurate to say that Caribean nations have more in common between them than they do with South American or Central American countries.
I understand they might have historical similarities under the Spanish conquest. However, Puerto Ricans are more similar to Dominicans than they are to Cubans. They are more culturally similar. Their cuisine are similar. Puerto Ricans also have similar phenotypes to Dominicans. Cubans look totally different from Puerto Ricans.
I've read an old NYT articles about there being tons of Dominicans claiming Puerto Rican in NYC since there were a signinificant amount of Dominicans who smuggled into PR to in order to get into the US mainland.
I also believe that there are more children who share Dominican and Rican heritage than there are tho who do with Cuban and Puerto Rican.
Puerto Ricans and Cubans have a lot more in common between them than Dominicans do with either of the two nationalities. The reason for this is that the Spanish presence in both Cuba and Puerto Rico was very strong and very recent. Cuba in particular was always regarded as another province of Spain. Puerto Rico was regarded as a colony; but the Spanish influence was very strong. Spain lost control of both Cuba and Puerto Rico after the Spanish American War in 1898, which is very recent when compared with other Latin American Spanish colonies.
Dominican Republic cut its ties with Spain 200 years before Cuba and Puerto Rico did. For a time it was a French colony along with Haiti. In fact, I would say Dominican Republic has more of a shared history with Haiti than it does with Puerto Rico or Cuba.
In any case, I think it is acurate to say that Caribean nations have more in common between them than they do with South American or Central American countries.
I disagree. To me Cuba and DR are the most alike (parts of PR are also almost identical to DR). The DR became part of Spain again in the 1860's, so don't act like it was completely void of anything Spain. A lot of the Cuban and Puerto Rican whites where actually Dominicans who ran away from the Haitians (on multiple occasions.) Phenotype wise, PR and Cuba don't look nothing alike. On the contrary, Dominicans can overlap with both Cubans and Puerto Ricans. Cuban mulattoes are spitting image of Dominicans, and both these countries lack the native influence on phenotype which Puerto Rico heavily portrays. However, Dominican tri-racials can have alot of native blood (the DR has more native ancestry than Cuba but less than Puerto Rico), so much so that alot of Cibaeno Dominicans would be thought of as being Puerto Rican. Remember the average Ciabeno is heavily Euro and in some of these isolated communtires retain a striking appearance to Central Americans Mestizo's. Cuban whites are pure white, while Puerto Rico's are more Castizo.
The similarities with Puerto Rico and Cuba begin and end with the fact the flags are inverted, Salsa is offficial music, and both where the last Spanish colonies.
Remember the Havana scenes in the great classic film, Godfather 2? Well those were all actually filmed in DR, which btw is closer to Cuba than PR is.
As to DR and Puerto Rico, a lot of DR leaders where of Puerto Rican descent and vice versa. But to me PR as a whole is not quite as similar to DR than Cuba is. Cuba has more afro heritage, which fits with DR more than PR's heavy Euro. If you're talking about the more afro parts of PR like Loiza, Santurce, Carolina, Trujillo, and Rio Piedra, then PR and DR could not be more alike. Dominicans there blend in like nothing.
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