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No Socialism is NOT about control! Quite the opposite. Bloomie is a TOTAL CAPITALIST.
Socialism: political system of communal ownership: a political theory or system in which the means of production and distribution are controlled by the people and operated according to equity and fairness rather than market principles.
Indeed, many in Europe would see socialism, as distinct from Communism, as a more general philosophy not necessarily opposed to capitalism - something that encompasses the existence of private enterprise, which is then taxed to help provide services for all (which may themselves be run either privately, or by the state).
But one needs to understand that socialism, in itself, is about economics - how resources are shared out, accumulated, or not. One can be a libertarian socialist who believes in unrestricted gun ownership, or a more authoritarian socialist, who might be more likely to advocate restrictions to gun ownership. The same wide spectrum exists among those calling themselves capitalists.
Directly? No, of course not. But in societies in which government control of daily affairs looms large (e.g. socialistic ones) private liberties such as gun ownership are greatly controlled if not outright abolished. (As with, for example, handgun ownership in Great Britain.)
So would you describe Saudi Arabia and Singapore as 'socialist', then, or would you concede that socially authoritarian countries can perfectly well run their economies in either a socialist or capitalist fashion?
Directly? No, of course not. But in societies in which government control of daily affairs looms large (e.g. socialistic ones) private liberties such as gun ownership are greatly controlled if not outright abolished. (As with, for example, handgun ownership in Great Britain.)
FWIW, government control of social affairs is not clearly greater in the UK than in the US.
Switzerland, which permits far more gun ownership per capita than any other European country, is also far more socially prescriptive than, for example, gun-banning UK.
Bloomberg needs to mind his business. He is a socialist and doesn't believe in gun rights.
I can't wait until he gets out
LOL, Bloombuck$ is far from socialism then anything else. He is a Billionaire why would he follow this political and economic system. Two he does not believe in a utopian society, and if it is a utopian society its for the rich who sip on starbucks and play with thier macbooks.
So would you describe Saudi Arabia and Singapore as 'socialist', then, or would you concede that socially authoritarian countries can perfectly well run their economies in either a socialist or capitalist fashion?
What I'm saying is that in a capitalistic system, in which buyer and seller determine the value of a good or service, there is bound to be more freedom and respect for individual liberties than in a system in which the government has preeminent say over what a good or service is worth. Capitalism is more consonant with individual freedom than socialism.
FWIW, government control of social affairs is not clearly greater in the UK than in the US.
Switzerland, which permits far more gun ownership per capita than any other European country, is also far more socially prescriptive than, for example, gun-banning UK.
Socialism isn't about control. It is about public unity, not one man dictatorships. Socialism doesn't equal facism.
Wow. You didn't say that. You think the KENNEDYs are socialist? Look, Bloomberg is teh ultimate capitalist, making money at others expense. I love the way as soon as someone doesn't like guns that makes them a socialist.
What else is a high rate of taxation good for if not redistribution of wealth?
Socialism isn't about control. It is about public unity, not one man dictatorships. Socialism doesn't equal facism.
Wow. You didn't say that. You think the KENNEDYs are socialist? Look, Bloomberg is teh ultimate capitalist, making money at others expense. I love the way as soon as someone doesn't like guns that makes them a socialist.
Anyone who doesn't agree with hard right, Fox News ideology is a socialist these days. Calling Bloombucks or JFK one is laughably stupid.
Bloomberg has no right to go to another state and do an undercover sting on gun trades in another state which is legal for them but illegal for NY. I Know BLoomberg feels bad for what happen to a fellow Jewish comrade congress women Giffords, I hope she recovers soon. But Bloomberg has no right to conduct a gun sting in another state. Bloomberg and the NYPD needs to approach the federal Attorney General and other arms of Federal law enforcment like the FBI and ATF on gun legal or illegal gun sales another state. NYPD has no authority anywhere else besides the five boroughs. IF the NYPD wanted to make the bust they need to approach the state of Arizona to conduct a task force with approval of the state of Arizona and also approval of the Attorney general office in DC. The only time the NYPD can make an arrest in another state is if someone committed a crime in NYC and fled AKA fleeing felon and Habeus corpus. Bloomberg said he used private detectives, do these private detectives have an Airzona license or a NY license cause if its a NY license the Private Is are screwed along with Bloomy. I hope Arizona puts a supeona on Bloomberg and Ray Kelly at Federal Court for unlawful arrests and stings with out the authority of the state and federal government. Bloomberg needs to worry aobut NYC and not worry about other states. Its no bodies fault that so many New Yorkers have ties to other states. YOU have alot of blacks in NYC who have ties to the south, so guns are going to come up regardless. You also have alot of MExicans in NYC many have established ties to the Southwest. YOu also have many Italians, Jews, Puerto Ricans who retired to the South, relatives from NYC visit thier retiree relatives tehy will probably bring up guns. Also you have alot of transplants from the south both black and white living in NYC they will bring thier guns too. The state of NY needs to increase penalities on guns from other states and make it easier for New Yorkers to obtain guns legally from NYS. If anything the Mayor should ask the PAPD police department to check every car coming in to NYC across the tunnles and GWB for guns.
What else is a high rate of taxation good for if not redistribution of wealth?
Many things; to fund a creation of social insurance for the security of all of us if we hit bad economic times of misfortune (unemployment, old age pensions, govt health insurance); to fund large projects that are not profitable in the short-term but bring benefits to the country in a long term (for example, pure science research, education, large transportation and other public works projects); building a large military machine and undertaking expensive wars.
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