Any opinions about immigration in Hunts Point in the Bronx?

[SobroGuy]

Wawawee I will never get through to you because you have a personal vendetta against poor people of color..as your only examples of poverty are "grown able bodied men playing dominos"...as if this is the face of poverty in NYC. The face of poverty is in fact women and children in this city..as it is in everyother place in the country.

There have always been able bodied men "hanging out" and doing nothing....history will show you that as well....this is nothing new. I agree that the city (or our society) has created a welfare state, and makes it easier for those to stay in poverty (assuming it is an easy lifestyle), however this doesn't change the fact that the poor and lower classes are leaving NYC. Look to lots of exurbs surrounding NYC and see who is moving there...Reading and Allentown PA are shining examples.

[wawaweewa]

Originally Posted by SobroGuy

Wawawee I will never get through to you because you have a personal vendetta against poor people of color..as your only examples of poverty are "grown able bodied men playing dominos"...as if this is the face of poverty in NYC. The face of poverty is in fact women and children in this city..as it is in everyother place in the country.

There have always been able bodied men "hanging out" and doing nothing....history will show you that as well....this is nothing new. I agree that the city (or our society) has created a welfare state, and makes it easier for those to stay in poverty (assuming it is an easy lifestyle), however this doesn't change the fact that the poor and lower classes are leaving NYC. Look to lots of exurbs surrounding NYC and see who is moving there...Reading and Allentown PA are shining examples.

There's no vendetta against a specific group here.

I'm of Russian Jewish ancestry and I'll rant about the Russians and Orthodox Jews cheating the system as well if you want me to. I don't particularly give a **** who someone is.

Some poor may be leaving but they're being replaced by others. So long as the transfer payments are not declining that is the economic reality.

[SobroGuy]

You are welcome to do that...however you chose NOT to rant about them and took the obvious shot at the "domino players" (aka those thieving lazy brown folks juicing the system...that's all they ever do..they are the real problems in this world after all and oh yeah..they ruined the Utopia that was NYC pre-1950!)

Did I miss anything?

Yes poor and lower class are moving out, and others are moving in. GUESS WHAT? That has always happened in NYC..the poor Irish moved in...then were replaced by the poor Italians, and then replaced by the poor Jews....and on and on....learn your history and stop the silly tirades. Once you understand NYC and it's history you won't be so bitter and angry....this is how it works.

[wawaweewa]

Originally Posted by SobroGuy

You are welcome to do that...however you chose NOT to rant about them and took the obvious shot at the "domino players" (aka those thieving lazy brown folks juicing the system...that's all they ever do..they are the real problems in this world after all and oh yeah..they ruined the Utopia that was NYC pre-1950!)

Did I miss anything?

Yes poor and lower class are moving out, and others are moving in. GUESS WHAT? That has always happened in NYC..the poor Irish moved in...then were replaced by the poor Italians, and then replaced by the poor Jews....and on and on....learn your history and stop the silly tirades. Once you understand NYC and it's history you won't be so bitter and angry....this is how it works.

You're flat out wrong.
The only folks moving out in numbers are the low to mid middle class.

This thread is about the Bronx though, correct? Start a thread about Borough Park, Williamsburgh, or Brighton Beach/Coney Island.

In fact, in a thread about Brighton Beach I did rant about the fraud of the welfare system there. So there you go.

Your outlook is just plain wrong. The poor have no incentive to move out so long as the welfare system exists like it does. The welfare system in smaller cities/municipalities is nowhere near as generous as NYC. The tax base is simply not wealthy enough to extract the necessary $'s.