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Because the entire epicenter of NY is to collect and then keep. The amount of revenue the tolls alone generate is enough to rebuild every road and bridge in the state annually. Instead they just rob the people, make excuses and use the funds for "other" reasons
The New York State Thruway doesn't really belong in this discussion. Thruway tolls fund the Thruway and Canal system, not New York State Roads.
New York State highways are pretty good upstate.. they are noticeably better than Pennsylvania (probably not saying much). The obvious answer is the winter weather. Every northern state is pot-hole city right now.
The extremely bad weather we've had this year required a massive need for extensive salting, sanding, and plowing; this has caused a lot of damage to roads. It's observed all over the city as well as the suburbs. I've already seen trucks out trying to do damage control but a lot more needs to be done. Lots of reports of blown tires...
NYC roads and highway stunk and always have, this winter weather just added more to an existing problem.
Drive down to the Lincoln Tunnel in Manhattan and you hit nothing but potholes, craters, bumps, etc... Come out on the NJT side and it is smooth as glass. Ditto the entire NJT and GSP.
The FDR Drive, Gowanus Expressway, BQE, Belt Park Way, Staten Island Expressway, you name it they all are horrible. You can see evidence of this by the hubcaps and other car/tire parts that litter NYC roadways.
When it comes to local streets besides weather and traffic there is the fact NYC does a poor job of coordinating work the involves opening up the street. Our street was repaved a few summers ago from Fifth to York. Fine very nice job, very smooth. Except first comes Con Edison with this or that project for the area or individual building. Then Verizon, later on this or that contractor working on a building. Within less than a year the street is back to the crater filled, patched up mess it was before repaving. You wonder sometimes why the City even bothered.
Central London does a lot of resurfacing, repaving and pedestrianization/widening of sidewalks, and it does make a big difference to the public realm. How much can it cost to reservice some of the infrastructure in Manhattan to this extent?
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NYC really has some of the worst and horrible infrastructure anywhere in the U.S.A for a big city that it is. NYC roads have to many potholes that can do damage to cars but also pedestrians. NYC roads are an accident waiting to happen. Not only NYC roads are horrible the highways aka expressways are filled with car debris and glass. In some areas of the city like in Manhattan expressways are prone to flooding like the FDR drive. Even in the cities airports have pot holes on the runway. NYC needs to fix its infrastructure which is becoming more and more difficult to maintain because infrastructure is not being replaced but just patched up until the patch work wears out. Our roadways are horrible, NYC sewage and piping system needs to be overhauled. Our airports are disgusting and needs to be replaced, NYC transit system is more worse than in some 3rd world countries. Someone should just tear down the cities infrastructure and a build a brand new 1 that is meant for the 21st century.
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Because Nyc is too overcrowded. Too many people using these roads. Its the same reason why the sidewalks are filthy, the city smells, many apartments are packed etc.
NYC is also one of the oldest cities in the USA and an entrance hub to the USA for immigrants and visitors from overseas. Therefore its aging infrastructure is not surprising but it is not practical or financial feasible to completely overhaul its whole system. On the other hand considering the size and age of the city its infrastructure is holding up relatively well although this winter has made the pothole problem much more severe than usual.
Tokyo, Seoul, London? All of these are big megacities that are in a different league of cleanliness, and they have sparkling infrastructure.
That doesn't even belong in the same breath as the other cities.
You showed some of the most touristy sections of London. NYC is relatively clean too in the tourist sections. Only if you choose to ignore the REAL dirty sections of London and Tokyo is it noticeably better.
Yeah, NY still has 6 lane roads...hello, 21st century...Texas has much better interchanges and 16 lane roads with elevated HOT lanes. Same as California who has transit built in the highway median. Take a ride to NY capital...3 4 stack interchanges and 10 lanes.
LA and Houston are car friendly cities that in the past underinvested in mass transit. They are even more out of touch than NYC with 21st century requirements and realities where people have to work and live closer to job centers and other people. LA at least has seen the light and is developing its downtown to make it more livable and walkable.
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Central London does a lot of resurfacing, repaving and pedestrianization/widening of sidewalks, and it does make a big difference to the public realm. How much can it cost to reservice some of the infrastructure in Manhattan to this extent?
NYC can definitely accomplish this and more (with some realignment of priorities like not getting hugh up over shadows) but I don't think this is what the OP has in mind.
Yeah, NY still has 6 lane roads...hello, 21st century...Texas has much better interchanges and 16 lane roads with elevated HOT lanes. Same as California who has transit built in the highway median. Take a ride to NY capital...3 4 stack interchanges and 10 lanes.
Who cares that Texas has 20 lane highways?!?!
The last thing NY should do, is to try to imitate states like Texas.
Building more and bigger highways is not a top priority in a city that has the largest subway system in the world.
NYC has the lowest rate of car ownership, precisely, because people don't need to drive everywhere they go.
NYC really has some of the worst and horrible infrastructure anywhere in the U.S.A for a big city that it is. NYC roads have to many potholes that can do damage to cars but also pedestrians. NYC roads are an accident waiting to happen. Not only NYC roads are horrible the highways aka expressways are filled with car debris and glass. In some areas of the city like in Manhattan expressways are prone to flooding like the FDR drive. Even in the cities airports have pot holes on the runway. NYC needs to fix its infrastructure which is becoming more and more difficult to maintain because infrastructure is not being replaced but just patched up until the patch work wears out. Our roadways are horrible, NYC sewage and piping system needs to be overhauled. Our airports are disgusting and needs to be replaced, NYC transit system is more worse than in some 3rd world countries. Someone should just tear down the cities infrastructure and a build a brand new 1 that is meant for the 21st century.
Danm, were you like violated in NYC or something? Although I have recently been finding out that about half the post in a specified city threads are about miserable people in a city ranting about it. But "airports are disgusting, transit system like 3rd world countires" LOL. The butthurt is too strong for you to be taken seriously. You must live a pretty sad life in Bronx. Although I hear a lot that Bronx is the craphole of NYC, you must live right in the middle of it to rant around like this. Sure there are bad parts of NYC for sure, but come on now.
Vent about the roads all you want, but what really matters is the traffic. NYC is still not worse in this regard than cities like LA.
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