What's stopping the MTA from replacing all subway train drivers ?

[itsideal]

Originally Posted by Bronxguyanese

The mta is not putting new train cars on the 7 line. The Mta is moving 10 year old modern 6 train cars over to the 7 line and moving the two decade old train cars over to the 6 line. In matter of fact I see more of those older train cars on the 6 than I do with the more modern train cars.

Yes! the older train cars on the 6 is all I see these past weeks. I lol'd at the illuminated circle around the faint number which you can not see. Lol.

[sabbat hunter]

Originally Posted by DrKane

Similar to what's going on with the Airtrain, What's stopping them from doing this besides startup cost to get something as massive as this underway ?

They have a contract. You cannot just simple wave a wand and get rid of them.

[brooklyn1234]

Originally Posted by Adhom

Do you have any evidence of this? In Paris, they have trains where the door opens when you press a button. The button is disabled when the train is about to move. I imagine most of the problems with closing the doors are due to service delays, which is also caused by the MTA.

I don't think it has to do with opening the doors as much as it does with closing them. The conductor is the person who closes the doors now (meaning the dude in the middle of the train)- if you watch it happen they only close one half at a time. They look toward the front and if all of the doors are clear they hit the button to close them, then they turn and do the same for the back half. Think evening rush hour, 5 train to Brooklyn, Grand Central. People packed in like sardines and more trying to push their way onto the train. Those doors open/close at least 5-6 times before they finally close and the train leaves. Sometimes they start to close and then stop halfway and re-open- this of course because people are shoving their way into the cars last minute and the conductor guy hits the button to stop them from getting caught in the closing door. If the doors were automated they would have to have some sort of a motion detection technology that would stop them from closing on someone who was doing this. And think, if things WERE motion sensored with how crowded our trains are the doors would just never close.

[DrKane]

Originally Posted by barkomatic

It seems like every technological leap that saves labor just means that people lose their jobs and those remaining are given the work that is left over and often overburdened.

I saw promotional materials from the 60's that showed families at leisure in fancy homes as robots brought them drinks and did their work. lol

Damn socialist propaganda. What I've read about things of that nature, is by freeing up these blue collar jobs, It gives the people more time for them. Listen I'm all about self study and "finding yourself" but in this day in age that isn't a given. You've gotta work hard to get to that level.

I'm assuming converting the entire system to CBTC, would take billions and a few fare hikes here and there.

What made me ask this question stems form the over 68,000 employees that these employees and aging system takes billions to keep running, Even if a lot of the money from the Gov.

[bigjake54]

Originally Posted by brooklyn1234

People packed in like sardines and more trying to push their way onto the train. Those doors open/close at least 5-6 times before they finally close and the train leaves.

Could be worse:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X8dGGedxDc

[bigjake54]

Originally Posted by Adhom

In Paris, they have trains where the door opens when you press a button. The button is disabled when the train is about to move.

Paris turnstiles used to lock, as trains entered the station, so there were no latecomers.