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Old 10-08-2015, 04:08 PM
 
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Who do you think you call when you need 20 guys to demo a building with sledgehammers because you can't get a compressor permit, paper dust masks because you don't feel like paying for real respirators, in asbestos because you don't feel like paying for abatement?
Walk past almost any construction site that is non-union and or a "small" job and you'll be hard pressed to hear any English. Various Asian, African, and or Spanish languages or dialects yes, but only the only English you hear is from the contractor.

You go past these sites and you see stop order notice after stop order notice posted. Some places having more than one...

All this does shed some light on all these construction "incidents" or "accidents" that happen almost like clockwork in the City. NYC real estate is red hot and not every LL or developer has the time or money to wait around for proper professionals and or to do things they way they should. So they turn a blind eye when their contractor shows up with who knows what from who knows where.
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Old 10-09-2015, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Bellerose, NY
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Undocumented denizens do the jobs that Americans don't do - they bag groceries, carry/transport heavy loads of food and goods, clean bathrooms at restaurants. Some of the sly ones managed to get jobs some how in meat processing and butchery shops. And the vast majority mow lawns and are handymen/home repairman.
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Old 10-09-2015, 09:11 PM
 
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Because, at the time, the immigration system discriminated against non-European immigrants and made legal immigration from Europe very easy. The current system makes it much harder to legally immigrate than it once was (at least for Europeans, though it was virtually impossible to immigrate legally from Asia, Africa or Latin America under the previous discriminatory system and now is at least possible though much harder than it was to legally immigrate from, say, Italy in 1920).
Thank you for knowing the truth, and for speaking up against the racists and the ignorant.
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Old 10-09-2015, 09:34 PM
 
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Undocumented denizens do the jobs that Americans don't do - they bag groceries, carry/transport heavy loads of food and goods, clean bathrooms at restaurants. Some of the sly ones managed to get jobs some how in meat processing and butchery shops. And the vast majority mow lawns and are handymen/home repairman.
Oh I don't know about jobs Americans "won't" do. In many cases illegals are taking jobs that Americans won't do for the wages many are willing to pay.

In times past a man could make a decent middle-class living and support a family being a house-painter, handyman, contractor, gardener, janitor, etc... Know a few guys in my home town of Staten Island that put themselves through college and even afterwards by doing floor cleaning/buffing/polishing for businesses. All of that is gone now... mostly because illegals have driven down the prices that no decent American wants to compete.

Entire segments of the United States economy are being emptied out of American workers and replaced by illegals. Construction, heating and air conditioning installation, plumbing, restaurant kitchen and other staff, etc.. The latest is the outsourcing of janitorial services. Everyone from Walmart to Rite Aid are now hiring these contract services who if not illegals themselves doing the work are run by same who hire others of the same.

Stand on First, Second or Third avenues any night of the week and you'll see plenty of Latino/Hispanic (mostly Mexicans but some South Americans) making their way up towards the low hundreds/upper nineties which as become their defacto communities.

Stand around any shop, store or business evening to over night and you'll see plenty of vans and or SUVs arriving with cleaning equipment unloaded.
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Old 10-09-2015, 11:01 PM
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Oh I don't know about jobs Americans "won't" do. In many cases illegals are taking jobs that Americans won't do for the wages many are willing to pay.

In times past a man could make a decent middle-class living and support a family being a house-painter, handyman, contractor, gardener, janitor, etc... Know a few guys in my home town of Staten Island that put themselves through college and even afterwards by doing floor cleaning/buffing/polishing for businesses. All of that is gone now... mostly because illegals have driven down the prices that no decent American wants to compete
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Old 10-10-2015, 01:27 AM
 
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Oh I don't know about jobs Americans "won't" do. In many cases illegals are taking jobs that Americans won't do for the wages many are willing to pay.
You just defined outsourcing and from your long and winded post it seems as Mr. Trump has gotten to ya. Goddamn Mexicans are the source of all our problems! ::sarcasm::
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Old 10-10-2015, 05:34 AM
 
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Bank Chairman.
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Old 10-10-2015, 08:24 AM
 
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Oh I don't know about jobs Americans "won't" do. In many cases illegals are taking jobs that Americans won't do for the wages many are willing to pay.

In times past a man could make a decent middle-class living and support a family being a house-painter, handyman, contractor, gardener, janitor, etc... Know a few guys in my home town of Staten Island that put themselves through college and even afterwards by doing floor cleaning/buffing/polishing for businesses. All of that is gone now... mostly because illegals have driven down the prices that no decent American wants to compete.

Entire segments of the United States economy are being emptied out of American workers and replaced by illegals. Construction, heating and air conditioning installation, plumbing, restaurant kitchen and other staff, etc.. The latest is the outsourcing of janitorial services. Everyone from Walmart to Rite Aid are now hiring these contract services who if not illegals themselves doing the work are run by same who hire others of the same.

Stand on First, Second or Third avenues any night of the week and you'll see plenty of Latino/Hispanic (mostly Mexicans but some South Americans) making their way up towards the low hundreds/upper nineties which as become their defacto communities.

Stand around any shop, store or business evening to over night and you'll see plenty of vans and or SUVs arriving with cleaning equipment unloaded.
I'm pretty sure that area is still predominately Puerto Rican and Dominican
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Old 10-10-2015, 08:34 AM
 
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they deliver chinese food on bicycles in the winter or dish washer .

all the things Americans do not don't want to do . we have help wanted signs up for low level jobs all over the city
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Old 10-10-2015, 05:29 PM
 
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I'm pretty sure that area is still predominately Puerto Rican and Dominican

Nope, not from what one sees around Mid-town east though UES.

Puerto Ricans I know who aren't professionals or civil servants that are "working class" hold down jobs like doormen, porters etc... in buildings but are union so make a decent living. Find them also in supermarket jobs (also union).
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