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Old 06-05-2015, 09:55 AM
 
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What you call milking back the system, since they can get away with it.
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Old 06-05-2015, 10:02 AM
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It is called skilled labor, and it pays well every where. Yes people do go to 2 year and 4 year colleges to learn many of these skills. It is hard work and if a person is smart they will save and invest as much as they can, because most people cannot perform this work past age 50.
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Old 06-05-2015, 12:05 PM
 
Location: New York City
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It is called skilled labor, and it pays well every where. Yes people do go to 2 year and 4 year colleges to learn many of these skills. It is hard work and if a person is smart they will save and invest as much as they can, because most people cannot perform this work past age 50.
Ok fine, so have a qualification process to certify skilled workers. Then let them compete in the marketplace like everybody else. If there's so few skilled workers that contractors will pay them $200K then they are worth every penny. But if there's enough to go around that they only make $40K then welcome to the real world it's time for taxpayers to stop getting raped
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Old 06-05-2015, 04:32 PM
 
Location: NYC
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They break their backs because they couldn't make it through college. Nobody doing manual labor should make more than $50K
LOL! It's pretty obvious you are sour that union guys make more then you and have killer benefits. It's ok to be jealous. There's plenty of union workers that have a college degree. My father made it through college and he's a union guy and ALMOST EVERYONE he works with has at least a bachelors and on top of that years of technical study/training. (MTA TWU Local 100 Power and Supply division, if you're looking to advance in your career.) My pops is 53 and can already retire but he doesn't want to - by choice. Where will you be at 53? Probably at the same desk. Nobody sitting in a cubicle all day being a corporate slave and doing tedious tasks should make more than 50k.


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Ok fine, so have a qualification process to certify skilled workers. Then let them compete in the marketplace like everybody else. If there's so few skilled workers that contractors will pay them $200K then they are worth every penny. But if there's enough to go around that they only make $40K then welcome to the real world it's time for taxpayers to stop getting raped
Where's your proof that there's enough to go around? Since you're so educated, why don't you conduct a study on this and show us your findings? Simple supply and demand economics proves that union skilled workers are getting paid what they are supposed to be paid. Non-union skilled workers are just getting screwed, exactly the same way YOU are getting screwed. And the only reason that you're so anti-union is because you were never apart of any union and probably never will be. You're just going to be somebody's b*tch for the rest of your life. That's all you're good for anyways.
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Old 06-05-2015, 05:11 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Where's your proof that there's enough to go around?
reading comprehension is obviously not your strong suit lol

The market should be the proof, end of story. If the skills are valued at 100K, there's no need for a union racket to strongarm the taxpayers

Abolish all Unions
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Old 06-05-2015, 05:48 PM
 
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reading comprehension is obviously not your strong suit lol

The market should be the proof, end of story. If the skills are valued at 100K, there's no need for a union racket to strongarm the taxpayers

Abolish all Unions

Man why didn't your pops wear a condom? Or at least finish on your mommas ****.
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Old 06-06-2015, 06:01 AM
 
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They break their backs because they couldn't make it through college. Nobody doing manual labor should make more than $50K
but the paper pusher in the office should ?
The backbone of the country is the guy who does the manual labor because we all know should they stop working the pencil pusher would probably lose his mind
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Old 06-06-2015, 12:01 PM
 
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This isn't about skilled vs unskill. It's about the unions ripping of the city by using their political influence.

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It is called skilled labor, and it pays well every where. Yes people do go to 2 year and 4 year colleges to learn many of these skills. It is hard work and if a person is smart they will save and invest as much as they can, because most people cannot perform this work past age 50.
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Old 06-06-2015, 01:28 PM
 
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This isn't about skilled vs unskill. It's about the unions ripping of the city by using their political influence.
By using their political influence, just like the contractors and anyone else with clout.
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Old 06-06-2015, 04:20 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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This isn't about skilled vs unskill. It's about the unions ripping of the city by using their political influence.
Aren't you from New Jersey ?

Which makes your concern about "the city" puzzling.

The uncritical conservatism fits far better there, or it's all there is in any case - either way.
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