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Again and again and yet again posters make sweeping (and largely negative) generalities about transplants to our city. Any poster who made similarly negative stereotypes about a group of people based on their race, religious, sexuality, et cetera, would be vilified.
Enough already.
Except that race and sexuality are not choices.
You understand that, right.
Your suggestion to place "transplant" in protected class status is a bit absurd.
Not everyone who moved here from elsewhere is a transplant.
New York City African Americans in some areas are getting worried IMHO. If it isn't Latino/Hispanics it is transplants/gentrification but either way areas formerly known as majority AA are facing shifting demographics. That Charles Rangel managed to hold onto his seat in the last election is a miracle. But the handwriting is on the wall, only reason why he wasn't booted out sooner is that many of the Latinos/Hispanics in that district aren't able to vote. That is changing...
What bothers NYC blacks is that these districts/areas were carved out for *them* to get political power, once they flip that will be that. The "Park Slope" mentality is already spreading out north, south, and west of that area in Brooklyn.
Kind of ironic since African americans popularize urban living to transplants through hip hop in the 80's and 90's.
New York City African Americans in some areas are getting worried IMHO. If it isn't Latino/Hispanics it is transplants/gentrification but either way areas formerly known as majority AA are facing shifting demographics. That Charles Rangel managed to hold onto his seat in the last election is a miracle. But the handwriting is on the wall, only reason why he wasn't booted out sooner is that many of the Latinos/Hispanics in that district aren't able to vote. That is changing...
Among what I consider kind of "city politics" types - I think this is true.
They are the same people who support Rangel and that simply does not make sense to me at all.
Among what I consider kind of "city politics" types - I think this is true.
They are the same people who support Rangel and that simply does not make sense to me at all.
Know of several straight and gay singles and couples who purchased in areas like the UES, West Village, Greenwich Village, Fort Greene, Park Slope, etc... anywhere from before the 1980's to mid-1990's. These are working to middle class who saw their property values boom. What did they do? Took some money off the table by cashing out (selling) and moving elsewhere. None of this nonsense about having to remain to save "the community".
It cracks me up when you hear of speak to certain persons living in Harlem or Bedford Stuyvesant refusing offers of millions for homes that were only worth much less than that just a few years ago. Why? They want to "protect" the community from "hipsters", "transplants" or any of the other code words that translate into white or anyone else with more money than they have.
So they sit on properties with rising taxes that they cannot really afford to pay and complain about things being "too high". Totally ignoring the fact reason why taxes were so low back in the day was because their areas were drug/crime infested, burnt out hoods.
I think it's more than just "protecting from hipsters and transplants." Also, not everyone has a desire to move.
Even back in the day, many people couldn't buy in their own neighborhoods. These areas turned into ghettoes because of high unemployment, the ones who afford to leave leaving, and high crime rates, and general disinvestment in anything. Many were denied loans or given mortgages with higher interest rates.
New York City African Americans in some areas are getting worried IMHO. If it isn't Latino/Hispanics it is transplants/gentrification but either way areas formerly known as majority AA are facing shifting demographics. That Charles Rangel managed to hold onto his seat in the last election is a miracle. But the handwriting is on the wall, only reason why he wasn't booted out sooner is that many of the Latinos/Hispanics in that district aren't able to vote. That is changing...
What bothers NYC blacks is that these districts/areas were carved out for *them* to get political power, once they flip that will be that. The "Park Slope" mentality is already spreading out north, south, and west of that area in Brooklyn.
Transplants or whatever tend to be better educated, politically and technically savvy individuals. What is more their priorities probably aren't the same as many long term residents.
Thanks to term limits every four or eight years someone new must run for City Council seats. In the coming decades it is going to be interesting to see how that all plays out.
There are a lot of professional, high income AAs who live in Harlem, Bed Stuy, and Ft. Greene. They've given up the suburbs/Teaneck and are returning to the city too. Gentrifiers aren't only White. While the demographics have shifted in Harlem so that seeing a white person isn't like sighting a unicorn, Harlem will more than likely remain majority Black (not just AA) for quite some time. At my old law firm in the city, several of the Black associates lived in Harlem.
At least the Harlem guy was just shooting his mouth off. Doesn't quite compare to the black guy who beat up a white train passenger this past weekend near the Church Ave Q for being white and in the "wrong neighborhood."
Can you explain why people insist on capitalizing white and black ?
I don't get that but it seems significant somehow.
That aside, Trump supporters do certainly represent a certain demographic. However, it is not my sense that all are white trash. I think they are certainly nostalgists who are not dealing well with disappointment.
Granted, there are few things not disappointing in our current world. There could be smarter ways to deal with this however than becoming a wagoneer for Trump.
Nostalgic for the days of the stay at home mom, the house, the white picket fence, and the freshly mowed lawn? The days of Archie Bunker? This certainly wasn't the reality for everyone.
I did not suggest that transplants are or ought to be a protected class. I offered my opinion that making sweeping generalizations about a large group of people is wrong and really rather shallow-minded.
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Originally Posted by Harlem resident
Except that race and sexuality are not choices.
You understand that, right.
Your suggestion to place "transplant" in protected class status is a bit absurd.
Not everyone who moved here from elsewhere is a transplant.
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