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Old 02-10-2016, 01:59 PM
 
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yet the Latino population continues to increase

But the Latino population itself is diverse, in ten years there might be less Puerto Ricans but more Mexicans
And the remaining Black population has changed too. More West Africans (mainly from Francophone Africa) and more Black Hispanics. African Americans and Puerto Ricans are on the way out. Sadly a significant portion of the AA and Puerto Rican population got caught up in some very nasty stuff, and as a result are out of the labor force and can't really afford to pay. Landlords in Harlem won't take Section 8 these days, so you've got to be able to get a decent job.

You have the same thing in Brooklyn where many AAs and Anglo Caribbean people are on their way out.
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Old 02-10-2016, 02:15 PM
 
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I think the main problem is by the 80s middle class African Americans (and Puerto Ricans) bailed out of places like Harlem, Bedstuy, and Bushwick leaving only super poor people. What's happening now that is that with gentrification and even immigration, the super poor people are being replaced as landlords won't deal with Section 8 anymore.

You do have middle class African Americans and Puerto Ricans who moved to NYC for professional jobs, but clearly the number is far less than the destitute African Americans and Puerto Ricans who are being pushed out.
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Old 02-10-2016, 02:51 PM
 
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I think the main problem is by the 80s middle class African Americans (and Puerto Ricans) bailed out of places like Harlem, Bedstuy, and Bushwick leaving only super poor people. What's happening now that is that with gentrification and even immigration, the super poor people are being replaced as landlords won't deal with Section 8 anymore.

You do have middle class African Americans and Puerto Ricans who moved to NYC for professional jobs, but clearly the number is far less than the destitute African Americans and Puerto Ricans who are being pushed out.
Ummm, no. The "super poor" are in NYCHA and or various supportive housing programs. DeBlasio is only looking to expand such. Those people who are being priced out are the working class but not quite middle class who still remained through the crack wars when as you said the middle to upper class AAs/PRs ran.
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Old 02-10-2016, 04:37 PM
 
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Ummm, no. The "super poor" are in NYCHA and or various supportive housing programs. DeBlasio is only looking to expand such. Those people who are being priced out are the working class but not quite middle class who still remained through the crack wars when as you said the middle to upper class AAs/PRs ran.
If you're already in a NYCHA you're safe for NOW, but de Blasio has sold a 50% stake in six NYCHA developments to L+M (a big developer). Even if he doesn't the next mayor might. So people living in NYCHA units should not feel too secure and many of them are well aware the city could sell additional NYCHA's. Meanwhile de Blasio loves the real estate industry and luxury housing under him as mushroomed. He just uses poor people for the votes.
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Old 02-10-2016, 08:21 PM
 
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sorry for the ignorant question.. but is there a town or city in america that is majority black and considered upper middle class.
There is a town in Texas that is affluent black. Affluent black towns exist, but you never hear about it. Also these communities are racially inclusive. They do not let other racial demographics in which can ruin economic fabric. I also heard about an affluent black township somewhere in Long Island where average property values were around 800k.





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Old 02-10-2016, 08:26 PM
 
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There is a town in Texas that is affluent black. Affluent black towns exist, but you never hear about it. Also these communities are racially inclusive. They do not let other racial demographics in which can ruin economic fabric. I also heard about an affluent black township somewhere in Long Island where average property values were around 800k.

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great videos.. thanks for sharing.
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Old 02-10-2016, 08:28 PM
 
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You're forgetting that lots of Latinos along with blacks are also being affected by gentrification.
Whites too area also affected by gentrification. Try and visit Astoria Queens, or Greenpoint Brooklyn where lots of Polish folks had to relocate. Gentrification affects all races.
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Old 02-10-2016, 08:30 PM
 
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Whites too area also affected by gentrification. Try and visit Astoria Queens, or Greenpoint Brooklyn where lots of Polish folks had to relocate. Gentrification affects all races.
try carolinas, georgia.. poor whites being pushed out by white northern influx.
they're moving to OK, and KS.
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Old 02-10-2016, 08:40 PM
 
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So far, with all the talk in media about blacks bot being nominated in the Oscars, black lives matter, and anything with black this and black that. People don't understand what caused outrages to take place or where did it come from? It all has to boil down not with racism but with economics. It seems to me that the 2008 economic recession left a huge gaping hole in the nations black community that affects them on all levels of income strata compared to whites who faired better from the recession except for those college grads and their debt. I personally believe if we had a more sound economy in recent years, guaranteed that such incidents as Eric Garners, Michael Brown's and so forth would have never happened if this great recession had not taken place. Whatever was gained for Black Americans economically during the Clinton era and for much of the Bush era has been erased during the beginning of the Obama era. In inner city neighborhoods like Harlem in NYC, and Anacostia in DC face the wrath of gentrification, property values were scooped up coupled with the low interest rates made it easy pickings for investors, buyers and developers alike.


I wonder if the 2008 recession is like a domino affect. I wonder if it would lead to World War 3 with Eurasian alliance of Russia, Iran and China?
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Old 02-10-2016, 10:55 PM
 
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There is a town in Texas that is affluent black. Affluent black towns exist, but you never hear about it. Also these communities are racially inclusive. They do not let other racial demographics in which can ruin economic fabric. I also heard about an affluent black township somewhere in Long Island where average property values were around 800k.
I didn't watch the video, but it was probably Wheatley Heights.
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