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This article says that NYC does not have the high crime rate that Chicago because NYC is a lot less segregated, and that unlike Chicago NYC has very few places that are 100% of one race.
I disagree with the article about race, but not social economic segregation. Look at SE Queens for example, many parts there are over 90% black but are safe, stable, middle class neighborhoods.
I believe one of the reasons why NYC has a lower crime rate then Chicago is largely because of the NYPD. I don't know much about Chicagos police force, but the fact that so many people, even our politicians, resent the NYPD so much shows that they do make the city safe.
I disagree with the article about race, but not social economic segregation. Look at SE Queens for example, many parts there are over 90% black but are safe, stable, middle class neighborhoods.
I believe one of the reasons why NYC has a lower crime rate then Chicago is largely because of the NYPD. I don't know much about Chicagos police force, but the fact that so many people, even our politicians, resent the NYPD so much shows that they do make the city safe.
But the city as a whole has very few parts that are 90% Black. Upper Manhattan is not 90% Black. You've got lots of whites and Hispanics in Upper Manhattan, and even growing numbers of Asians. Bedstuy has gotten an influx of whites. The Bronx has many Hispanics.
Outside of Eastern Queens and maybe Brownsville and East New York, there are NO neighborhoods in NYC that are 90% or more Black these days.
And there's even talk of gentrifying ENY and Brownsville.
Asian developers are buying up Jamaica and building all sorts of new stuff.
So on race the article is RIGHT, especially if you don't see everything as strictly Black or White.
But the city as a whole has very few parts that are 90% Black. Upper Manhattan is not 90% Black. You've got lots of whites and Hispanics in Upper Manhattan, and even growing numbers of Asians. Bedstuy has gotten an influx of whites. The Bronx has many Hispanics.
Outside of Eastern Queens and maybe Brownsville and East New York, there are NO neighborhoods in NYC that are 90% or more Black these days.
And there's even talk of gentrifying ENY and Brownsville.
Asian developers are buying up Jamaica and building all sorts of new stuff.
So on race the article is RIGHT, especially if you don't see everything as strictly Black or White.
What matters more is $$$. If the newer residents moving into Bed Stuy or Upper Manhattan were the same race as the
previous ones, but had a lot more money, these areas would still gentrify.
What matters more is $$$. If the newer residents moving into Bed Stuy or Upper Manhattan were the same race as the
previous ones, but had a lot more money, these areas would still gentrify.
It's racial and it's socioeconomic.
There are not enough well off Black people to gentrify these areas, which is why they didn't gentrify until whites were interested in these areas and until developers got tax credits (from federal, state, and city governments) to develop these areas. In short NY had different public policies from Chicago that encouraged this a lot more, all while getting state and federal tax credits.
Chicago is completely more American than New York. You wanna talk ethnicity - look at the blacks. All of the Chicago "blacks" are southern protestants. The "blacks" in NY are a mix of southern protestants but mostly mix of Caribbean or African nationalities. It is a challenge for Americans to wrap their minds around this but there is a tremendous behavioral chasm between first generation New York immigrants and dirty south Chicago protestants. Unfortunately American social engineering leaves them impotent to idetify this subtle but tremendous difference.
For another insight take a close look at the pedigree of the local pizza of NYC & Chicago. Chicago pizza includes elements of English pot pies. In-fact Chicago Pizza is a English pot pie - they even close it up sometimes. Fat deep crust, long cooking times, salty, unhealthy, loaded with meats and like middle America the Chicago pot pie shares a cultural pedigree from Great Britain. Now take a look at NY thin crust. Nothing anglo about that that. That is strait out of the Roman Empire - a place where civilization was held together by the gluten in thin crust pizza. Pizza that is cooked in a communal, wood fired oven, cooked quickly and simply. NY pizza has a Mediterranean pedigree. Right here in the pizza war we see that Chicago has that dominant anglo- American theme while NYC sports a foreign culinary item on its collective menu.
Why is Chicago more segregated? It is more American and Americans think along the lines of "white" & "black". No other place in the world thinks like this. In the white-black paradigm the behavior of its blacks is clearly southern redneck or dirty south- whatever it is their behavior is collectively f****-up and people know this. People avoid that dirty southern protestant group- just look at their murder rates - thus the segregation. Since Chicago is so American - even their pizza speaks English- it has a strong white - black paradigm. NYC is not like that.
Chicago is completely more American than New York. You wanna talk ethnicity - look at the blacks. All of the Chicago "blacks" are southern protestants. The "blacks" in NY are a mix of southern protestants but mostly mix of Caribbean or African nationalities. It is a challenge for Americans to wrap their minds around this but there is a tremendous behavioral chasm between first generation New York immigrants and dirty south Chicago protestants. Unfortunately American social engineering leaves them impotent to idetify this subtle but tremendous difference.
For another insight take a close look at the pedigree of the local pizza of NYC & Chicago. Chicago pizza includes elements of English pot pies. In-fact Chicago Pizza is a English pot pie - they even close it up sometimes. Fat deep crust, long cooking times, salty, unhealthy, loaded with meats and like middle America the Chicago pot pie shares a cultural pedigree from Great Britain. Now take a look at NY thin crust. Nothing anglo about that that. That is strait out of the Roman Empire - a place where civilization was held together by the gluten in thin crust pizza. Pizza that is cooked in a communal, wood fired oven, cooked quickly and simply. NY pizza has a Mediterranean pedigree.
Why is Chicago more segregated? It is more American and Americans think along the lines of "white" & "black". No other place in the world thinks like this. In the white-black paradigm the behavior of its blacks is clearly southern redneck or dirty south- whatever it is their behavior is collectively f****-up and people know this. People avoid that dirty southern protestant group. Since Chicago is so American - even their pizza speaks English- it has a strong white - black paradigm. NYC is not like that.
True about the ethnic differences of Blacks here. You might add NYC has many Black Hispanics as well. Chicago doesn't have as much going for it economically, and that maybe a factor in why it could not break what you call the white-black paradigm. This seemed to similarly be true of other midwestern cities.
Los Angeles's Black population is heavily from the South, and it isn't nearly as segregated as Chicago either.
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