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I think we have a very different definition for this term "hip and trendy" that keeps getting tossed around. I'm in Brooklyn as much as I'm in Queens. I think living on the boro border gives me the best of what both have to offer. Cool to me is a place that supplies my interests and needs, and there are many establishments in Brooklyn that do. Just not so much more than what Queens has to offer to justify such a real estate premium. So I don't think it is any of these "hip, trendy, cultural" superiority complexes that makes Brooklyn more expensive. It is the building types (tradionally 3 - 6 family dwellings) and the mass transit coverage, as why Brooklyn commands higher prices than Queens.
You live in Ridgewood which is basically an extension of Bushwick nowadays.
On a separate note to add, I always kinda felt like Brooklyn had more of an overall image and uniformity to it that Queens doesn't have as much. I feel like with Queens it's the specific neighborhood that matters more than the borough.
Does that make sense? Does anyone else get what I'm getting at?
You live in Ridgewood which is basically an extension of Bushwick nowadays.
On a separate note to add, I always kinda felt like Brooklyn had more of an overall image and uniformity to it that Queens doesn't have as much. I feel like with Queens it's the specific neighborhood that matters more than the borough.
Does that make sense? Does anyone else get what I'm getting at?
Yes other than it being more aesthetically pleasing to new comers, Brooklyn does have a rigid identity since historically being it's own city. If it where it's own city today it would still be the 4th largest city in the US after Chicago and LA, which is insane to me. Nobody ever says if Queens would be anything other than a borough...
Yes other than it being more aesthetically pleasing to new comers, Brooklyn does have a rigid identity since historically being it's own city. If it where it it's own city today it would still be the 4th largest city in the US after Chicago and LA, which is insane to me. Nobody ever says if Queens would be anything other than a borough...
Sorry, but Brooklyn is nothing more than a boro too. There has been no talk about Brooklyn becoming its own city since it was incorporated into NYC over a hundred years ago. And that was only Kings County north of the terminal moraine (roughly north of Eastern Pkwy and west of Prospect Park). The rest was not part of the now defunct City of Brooklyn.
Queens had alot of later day planning than brooklyn. Queens really started taking shape, first with the 7 trains going all the way out to flushing , then with the triboro bridge , Laguardia airport, and the Grand Central Parkway creation. this happened in the late 20's . Queens got the residents of Manhattan, from midtown up to harlem. The big attraction was affordable 1 and 2 family homes.
Queens has more 1 and 2 family homes than brooklyn. those apartment complexes were built closer to the trains, maybe 2 to 4 blocks in either direction. Dependent on density and express stop locations.
Brooklyn has an earlier builds, a 20 to 40 year head start over queens. All those big buildings and tenaments were built , taking a lead from lower manhattan. Just an extension of manhattan, housing all the manhattan work force. Of course, you will find those awesome lime stone/brown stone buildings. Some of these buildings were purchased to house multiple family, under one roof, 3 generations of family would not suprise me. These properties being used as SRO , etc would not suprise me.
Brooklyn real estate is hot , if thats what you are looking for. If an extension of Manhattan is what you looking for. There are certain neighborhoods gentrification will not swollow up, like the Hasidic communities. You will pay to live in brooklyn, even though that BQE has to be the worse expressway I dread to drive on!
Sorry, but Brooklyn is nothing more than a boro too. There has been no talk about Brooklyn becoming its own city since it was incorporated into NYC over a hundred years ago. And that was only Kings County north of the terminal moraine (roughly north of Eastern Pkwy and west of Prospect Park). The rest was not part of the now defunct City of Brooklyn.
I'm not disagreeing with that, I am saying the identity behind it. Brooklyn becoming its own city that will never happen. I actually agree with a lot of the comments on here, don't really get the big deal of Brooklyn unless you are from here, everyone probably prefers their own Borough. All this talk just makes it more expensive for me.
I'm not disagreeing with that, I am saying the identity behind it. Brooklyn becoming its own city that will never happen. I actually agree with a lot of the comments on here, don't really get the big deal of Brooklyn unless you are from here, everyone probably prefers their own Borough. All this talk just makes it more expensive for me.
Dude, if Brooklyn had its own identity outside of NYC, it would have things like sports teams, for instance. Are the NY Knicks from Brooklyn? No, they are from NY. There would be things like a sports team just for Brooklyn, like the Brooklyn Nets or something. And there would be historic things along those lines, like the Brooklyn Dodgers. Sorry, it just doesn't have an identity like that. It's not like if you go outside of Brooklyn, say to another state or even overseas you can say things like, "I'm from Brooklyn." If it had its own identity, people would be like, "oh, ok," and not like, "Brooklyn, what is that? Is that in Rhode Island?"
Dude, if Brooklyn had its own identity outside of NYC, it would have things like sports teams, for instance. Are the NY Knicks from Brooklyn? No, they are from NY. There would be things like a sports team just for Brooklyn, like the Brooklyn Nets or something. And there would be historic things along those lines, like the Brooklyn Dodgers. Sorry, it just doesn't have an identity like that. It's not like if you go outside of Brooklyn, say to another state or even overseas you can say things like, "I'm from Brooklyn." If it had its own identity, people would be like, "oh, ok," and not like, "Brooklyn, what is that? Is that in Rhode Island?"
ok trying to follow... we did have our own Baseball team/Ebbets stadium. You said it the Brooklyn Dodgers and they were sold off and guess what the old timers til this day have not gotten over it. Only because there were hiccups along the way doesn't mean any of that identify was lost. Why do you think they fought so hard for the new stadium thus the Brooklyn Nets.
Do you get out much?, just saying because yes when you go to places like Rhode Island if you say "Brooklyn" they know "Brooklyn". I worked in bubblefak MA one summer in early 2000s and they had foreign exchange students as well, when I said "Brooklyn" they were like oooh "Brooklyn". They were more familiar of it because of MTV/rap mainstream media but still.
Now you have shows like "Homeland" where the main character has an apartment and lives in Brooklyn. I mean you must be living under a rock if you think Brooklyn is in Rhode Island.
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I think we have a very different definition for this term "hip and trendy" that keeps getting tossed around. I'm in Brooklyn as much as I'm in Queens. I think living on the boro border gives me the best of what both have to offer. Cool to me is a place that supplies my interests and needs, and there are many establishments in Brooklyn that do. Just not so much more than what Queens has to offer to justify such a real estate premium. So I don't think it is any of these "hip, trendy, cultural" superiority complexes that makes Brooklyn more expensive. It is the building types (tradionally 3 - 6 family dwellings) and the mass transit coverage, as why Brooklyn commands higher prices than Queens.
Right, I think this is about right. The "hip, trendy" is partially because of the transit access to the central business districts, I think. Parts of Brooklyn were the obviously next place out for people working in the arts and design community to move to from Manhattan. Eastern Queens also had that to some extent, but not to the same level as Brooklyn since there were a lot more and closer connections to the hip, trendy parts of Manhattan (as well as the jobs).
Dude, if Brooklyn had its own identity outside of NYC, it would have things like sports teams, for instance. Are the NY Knicks from Brooklyn? No, they are from NY. There would be things like a sports team just for Brooklyn, like the Brooklyn Nets or something. And there would be historic things along those lines, like the Brooklyn Dodgers. Sorry, it just doesn't have an identity like that. It's not like if you go outside of Brooklyn, say to another state or even overseas you can say things like, "I'm from Brooklyn." If it had its own identity, people would be like, "oh, ok," and not like, "Brooklyn, what is that? Is that in Rhode Island?"
I disagree that Brooklyn doesn't currently have a well-known identity of its own--it's enough of one that it's almost a branding exercise at this point. Brooklyn Lager, Brooklyn Industry, Brooklyn Nets, television shows with Brooklyn in the name or heavily identified with the borough, etc. It's not the same scale of Manhattan or NYC in general, but few places in the US are, so that's kind of a restrictive rubric.
ok trying to follow... we did have our own Baseball team/Ebbets stadium. You said it the Brooklyn Dodgers and they were sold off and guess what the old timers til this day have not gotten over it. Only because there were hiccups along the way doesn't mean any of that identify was lost. Why do you think they fought so hard for the new stadium thus the Brooklyn Nets.
Do you get out much?, just saying because yes when you go to places like Rhode Island if you say "Brooklyn" they know "Brooklyn". I worked in bubblefak MA one summer in early 2000s and they had foreign exchange students as well, when I said "Brooklyn" they were like oooh "Brooklyn". They were more familiar of it because of MTV/rap mainstream media but still.
Now you have shows like "Homeland" where the main character has an apartment and lives in Brooklyn. I mean you must be living under a rock if you think Brooklyn is in Rhode Island.
It's possible I was being sarcastic.
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It's not like if you go outside of Brooklyn, say to another state or even overseas you can say things like, "I'm from Brooklyn." If it had its own identity, people would be like, "oh, ok," and not like, "Brooklyn, what is that? Is that in Rhode Island?" 
