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Old 03-17-2017, 08:02 AM
 
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Whys your definition of “diversity”? Because in all honesty, the Bronx is NOT diverse at all. 90% of the Bronx population are of Black and Brown folks. That’s NOT diversity. Queens has a better balance population and more diverse.
I worry about your grasp of reality.

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Overall, The Bronx has about 27 languages or language groups that are dominant throughout areas of the borough but actual spoken languages is much greater than this.
All of this shouldn’t be too big of a surprise since the US Census said The Bronx is the most diverse area in the country and there is an 89.7 percent chance that any two residents, chosen at random, would be of different race or ethnicity.
Languages of The Bronx & Its Neighborhoods | Welcome2TheBronx


However, when it comes to your mistaken idea that diversity is only skin deep - think a little bit more about the fact that, for many reasons, black and brown folks are not as homogenized as American whites. There is a ton of diversity in the Bronx.
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Old 03-17-2017, 09:36 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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I worry about your grasp of reality.

Languages of The Bronx & Its Neighborhoods | Welcome2TheBronx


However, when it comes to your mistaken idea that diversity is only skin deep - think a little bit more about the fact that, for many reasons, black and brown folks are not as homogenized as American whites. There is a ton of diversity in the Bronx.
He's actually right. You can throw around all of those stats but generally speaking, there isn't much intermingling of groups. That's what he's talking about. Even in minority areas, you may see lots of black and brown folks, but they aren't really intermingling either. The Latinos stick with the Latinos. The Africans stick with the Africans. The Black Americans with their own... The West Indians with their own. The Whites live in relatively isolated out of the way areas where they are the majority, even if there are other groups. Do you call that "diversity"?
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Old 03-17-2017, 11:06 AM
 
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I worry about your grasp of reality.

Languages of The Bronx & Its Neighborhoods | Welcome2TheBronx


However, when it comes to your mistaken idea that diversity is only skin deep - think a little bit more about the fact that, for many reasons, black and brown folks are not as homogenized as American whites. There is a ton of diversity in the Bronx.
This may be true in the midwest, but there is a world of difference between different breeds of white people in cities, as much as there is between different hispanics.
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Old 03-17-2017, 11:19 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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This may be true in the midwest, but there is a world of difference between different breeds of white people in cities, as much as there is between different hispanics.
That's also true. Dominicans like sticking with Dominicans, Mexicans in their group and so on...
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Old 03-17-2017, 11:39 AM
 
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I worry about your grasp of reality.

Languages of The Bronx & Its Neighborhoods | Welcome2TheBronx


However, when it comes to your mistaken idea that diversity is only skin deep - think a little bit more about the fact that, for many reasons, black and brown folks are not as homogenized as American whites. There is a ton of diversity in the Bronx.
Let me guess CTWalters...you're Black aren't you? Personally, I worry about YOUR grasp of reality. You must be living in a fantasy land.

If you would just OPEN your eyes, you'd notice that easily 90% of the Bronx demographics are of Black and Brown folks. If you want to take it further, financially, at least 75% of that demographics are of poor, low income, working class folks.

I'm sorry but but when 75%-90% of the Bronx population are of Black or Brown people who are either poor, or working poor, that is NOT a DIVERSE community or Borough.

The definition of Diverse is a place like QUEENS. You have your poor folks but you also have your a health chuck of middle class, upper middle class, and wealth folks as well.

Where is the wealth or middle to upper middle class folks location in the Bronx? You can say Riverdale, maybe some in Pelham or Country Club. That's it!

Riverdale, Pelham and the like make up but a FRACTION of the entire Bronx (~10%). It's insignificant. The rest of the borough is filled with poor, low income, working class Black and Brown folks. Call a spade a spade!

That is NOT diverse. Neither racially nor financially. The Bronx is general is NOT a diverse borough. Not even close!
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Old 03-17-2017, 11:46 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Let me guess CTWalters...you're Black aren't you? Personally, I worry about YOUR grasp of reality. You must be living in a fantasy land.

If you would just OPEN your eyes, you'd notice that easily 90% of the Bronx demographics are of Black and Brown folks. If you want to take it further, financially, at least 75% of that demographics are of poor, low income, working class folks.

I'm sorry but but when 75%-90% of the Bronx population are of Black or Brown people who are either poor, or working poor, that is NOT a DIVERSE community or Borough.

The definition of Diverse is a place like QUEENS. You have your poor folks but you also have your a health chuck of middle class, upper middle class, and wealth folks as well.

Where is the wealth or middle to upper middle class folks location in the Bronx? You can say Riverdale, maybe some in Pelham or Country Club. That's it!

Riverdale, Pelham and the like make up but a FRACTION of the entire Bronx (~10%). It's insignificant. The rest of the borough is filled with poor, low income, working class Black and Brown folks. Call a spade a spade!

That is NOT diverse. Neither racially nor financially. The Bronx is general is NOT a diverse borough. Not even close!
lol And Riverdale and Country Club are majority white. Pelham Gardens isn't really upper middle class, but definitely solid middle class. The only upper middle to upper class area is Riverdale. Country Club is middle class to upper middle class at best. Most of Throgs Neck (including the subsections) is solid middle class, as is Woodlawn, Morris Park, Pelham Bay and parts of Pelham Parkway.
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Old 03-17-2017, 11:58 AM
 
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lol And Riverdale and Country Club are majority white. Pelham Gardens isn't really upper middle class, but definitely solid middle class. The only upper middle to upper class area is Riverdale. Country Club is middle class to upper middle class at best. Most of Throgs Neck (including the subsections) is solid middle class, as is Woodlawn, Morris Park, Pelham Bay and parts of Pelham Parkway.
Exactly my point. The Bronx is NOT a diverse borough. Not one bit!
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Old 03-17-2017, 12:07 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Exactly my point. The Bronx is NOT a diverse borough. Not one bit!
How anyone can say it is is beyond me. Back in the old days, minorities didn't set foot in certain areas, hence the movie Bronx Tale... The white areas have become a bit more integrated, but only because so many whites have left. That doesn't mean that those areas are diverse though. You don't see various ethnic groups together regularly. Areas like Woodlawn are still heavily Irish and Irish American. Nothing wrong with it IMO, but it's an example of the lack of diversity that exists. Even areas like Throgs Neck now have more Latinos, but the whites generally still live east of the expressway.
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Old 03-17-2017, 06:15 PM
 
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Whys your definition of “diversity”? Because in all honesty, the Bronx is NOT diverse at all. 90% of the Bronx population are of Black and Brown folks. That’s NOT diversity. Queens has a better balance population and more diverse.
Why isn't that diverse to you? That covers many different groups of people.

And The Bronx is at least 14% white anyway.
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Old 03-17-2017, 06:21 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Let me guess CTWalters...you're Black aren't you? Personally, I worry about YOUR grasp of reality. You must be living in a fantasy land.

If you would just OPEN your eyes, you'd notice that easily 90% of the Bronx demographics are of Black and Brown folks. If you want to take it further, financially, at least 75% of that demographics are of poor, low income, working class folks.

I'm sorry but but when 75%-90% of the Bronx population are of Black or Brown people who are either poor, or working poor, that is NOT a DIVERSE community or Borough.

The definition of Diverse is a place like QUEENS. You have your poor folks but you also have your a health chuck of middle class, upper middle class, and wealth folks as well.

Where is the wealth or middle to upper middle class folks location in the Bronx? You can say Riverdale, maybe some in Pelham or Country Club. That's it!

Riverdale, Pelham and the like make up but a FRACTION of the entire Bronx (~10%). It's insignificant. The rest of the borough is filled with poor, low income, working class Black and Brown folks. Call a spade a spade!

That is NOT diverse. Neither racially nor financially. The Bronx is general is NOT a diverse borough. Not even close!
The Bronx isn't that diverse compared to Queens, but it's still pretty diverse as a county in the US.

As for the topic, Bedford Park is another option that's pretty comparable to the ones originally listed--though none of these are particularly suburban.
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