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Ugh I am so over affordable housing. I typed out a much longer response but it would probably be viewed as rude, classist or unpopular. So I deleted it but I'm so irritated by all of it.
Yeah, it’s really disheartening with the lotteries to see all of 1-5 units in a given building available for 40% AMI and double or triple the amount for higher income levels, and the stereotypes about low income people on this forum and in the city in general are abhorrent.
No one needs to come at me with economic jargon on this because frankly, the economy is made up and housing is a human right, and this city can be exhausting when you are already paddling as hard as you can just to stay afloat.
Yeah, it’s really disheartening with the lotteries to see all of 1-5 units in a given building available for 40% AMI and double or triple the amount for higher income levels, and the stereotypes about low income people on this forum and in the city in general are abhorrent.
No one needs to come at me with economic jargon on this because frankly, the economy is made up and housing is a human right, and this city can be exhausting when you are already paddling as hard as you can just to stay afloat.
So luxury units for 1/3rd of the price isn’t enough for people?
Housing could be a right like you say, however that right doesn’t come with a stipulation of housing in prime area, large luxury apartments.
There are tons of affordable housing options just not in the prime areas in NYC.
The term affordable is so subjective too. I hate how that term is thrown around in this city.
Affordable housing is such a joke. There were many times in my past when I tried to apply and my income basically put me in a place where I made too little or too much. The straw that broke the camels back was when I qualified for an apartment over at Hunters Point South Crossing back in 2015 (Which is essentially what brought me to C-D and I just lurked for 3 years lol). They wanted to give me a studio on the 3rd floor facing north looking at a wall for $1560 a month, then have the nerve to say I had 24 hours to make a decision or I will forfeit the unit. Im so happy I told them hell no.
Affordable housing is such a joke. There were many times in my past when I tried to apply and my income basically put me in a place where I made too little or too much. The straw that broke the camels back was when I qualified for an apartment over at Hunters Point South Crossing back in 2015 (Which is essentially what brought me to C-D and I just lurked for 3 years lol). They wanted to give me a studio on the 3rd floor facing north looking at a wall for $1560 a month, then have the nerve to say I had 24 hours to make a decision or I will forfeit the unit. Im so happy I told them hell no.
The term "affordable" is very subjective indeed!
I kid you not... Circa 2013, I saw a building in the South Bronx just off of 161st street listing "affordable units". The income ranges were absurd. They were posted right outside for all to see. At that time they had studios for people supposedly making $60,000+. I mean in the South Bronx, in Melrose at that in 2013, who in their right mind is paying those prices for what is essentially another form of housing projects? They had no where to dispose of garbage, so TONS of garbage, sofas and mattresses (uncovered) were just strewn all over the sidewalk. Everything was cheaply put together too so within a few years the building started to look like crap because you had working people mixed in with the ghetto folks.
This is another reason that I would NEVER go into any lottery because in most cases the developers don't give a damn. They want the tax breaks and that's that. Once the new shiny building starts looking old, they don't want to fix anything, and you're stuck in that apartment with cheap this and that. Better off just paying market rate rent and I can do my own thing.
So luxury units for 1/3rd of the price isn’t enough for people?
Housing could be a right like you say, however that right doesn’t come with a stipulation of housing in prime area, large luxury apartments.
There are tons of affordable housing options just not in the prime areas in NYC.
The problem is that you’re making the assumption that luxury buildings should and can be built anywhere, that those with money should get to define which areas are prime and then gatekeep them, and that it’s perfectly acceptable for people who work in a city to be forced to its uglier, less accessible fringes because they can’t afford the median rent, because people wirh more money have come in and claimed the area they used to occupy as “prime areas”.
I don’t think the current system addresses this well, but luxury developers are supposed to offer up a certain number of apartments because they have oversaturated the extremely limited available land with their luxury buildings and aren’t building non-luxury units. If they want to make their big profits, they have to give something back. Most of them don’t seem to be going bankrupt, so I assume the major complaining about low income housing is just that - complaining.
Is it just me or is the group the complains the most and loudest is also the one that has the most "affordable" housing availability? JUST ASKING
And what group is this exactly?
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