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Old 06-18-2020, 09:50 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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Exactly, if there is a spike we will see it

Here's the problem, it's summertime when UV rays are killing the virus. People are going to see infections under control and act like everything is good, and then October hits....
There are still questions about this—not that UVC kills the virus, but the extent to which outdoor transmission happens in practice. It seems like airborne particles via person to person transmission in indoor spaces is how transmission mostly happens (and thank goodness for that, because if outdoor transmissions were also a large factor then contact tracing would be a hell of a hard problem). This is also supported in part that states which opened operations in even very sunny states are now spiking. That and the protests being outdoors with people mostly wearing masks makes me less worried about a spike from the protests. I’m a bit more worried about what happens as we open up, but as New Yorkers have been, to my surprise, pretty good overall with wearing masks and the amount of WFH that has been allowed makes me somewhat more worried. I am a little concerned about visitors coming in from other states that seem to be now losing a bit of their grip on their virus and not doing the precautions.

That being said, it definitely hasn’t been spiking in recent weeks here, so I don’t exactly see a point of a long daily briefing on this for the time being. I’d be suspicious if they stopped updating the dashboards, but that isn’t what’s happening.
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Old 06-18-2020, 12:13 PM
 
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The same people who complain how the pandemic response is overblown and how everything should re-open because economic pain is too much are the same ones complaining Cuomo is hiding numbers to make the pandemic seem less severe. We get it. You don't like NY.

The reality is, the governor needs to weigh the pros and cons of re-opening against the backdrop of certain uptick in infection. But the benefits of re-opening will be completely moot if people live in fear of infections and don't come out to dine and shop. So the governor needs to delicately thread the needle to address both concerns.
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Old 06-18-2020, 01:49 PM
 
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The same people who complain how the pandemic response is overblown and how everything should re-open because economic pain is too much are the same ones complaining Cuomo is hiding numbers to make the pandemic seem less severe. We get it. You don't like NY.

The reality is, the governor needs to weigh the pros and cons of re-opening against the backdrop of certain uptick in infection. But the benefits of re-opening will be completely moot if people live in fear of infections and don't come out to dine and shop. So the governor needs to delicately thread the needle to address both concerns.
I dont agree with OP's title. Coumo is stopping the briefings because there's nothing to report. What else is there left to say? Today is Friday, wear a mask. Where is his mask tanline by the way?
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Old 06-18-2020, 02:06 PM
 
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The same people who complain how the pandemic response is overblown and how everything should re-open because economic pain is too much are the same ones complaining Cuomo is hiding numbers to make the pandemic seem less severe. We get it. You don't like NY.

The reality is, the governor needs to weigh the pros and cons of re-opening against the backdrop of certain uptick in infection. But the benefits of re-opening will be completely moot if people live in fear of infections and don't come out to dine and shop. So the governor needs to delicately thread the needle to address both concerns.

It may not work because many states are seeing surges in hospitalizations as well as new surges in certain countries

So they may bring it back into New York and seed it into the reopened population, maybe by Mid July or August

But you are right about the politically motivated double standards, ironically some of the ones who don't like NY are certain New Yorkers themselves
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Old 06-18-2020, 02:10 PM
 
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It may not work because many states are seeing surges in hospitalizations as well as new surges in certain countries

So they may bring it back into New York and seed it into the reopened population, maybe by Mid July or August

But you are right about the politically motivated double standards, ironically some of the ones who don't like NY are certain New Yorkers themselves
Yea, it’s the seeding from other states I think will be the problem. As a nation, the response has been really patchy and uneven. A bit of a flare-up here and there seems manageable for contact tracing and for limited shutdowns as other countries have done. However, it’s not just a little bit of flare-up that we’re seeing in other parts of the country and there seems to be little will to nip things in the bud quickly.
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Old 06-18-2020, 04:33 PM
 
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There’s also two other factors: one is that people are probably not going to work while sick nearly as much since they aren’t working, working from home, or are less likely to brush off coughing or fevers as just a simple cold (which they shouldn’t have been doing in the first place), and that mask usage has gone way up.
Mask usage has gone down if anything
I see tons of people in bodegas not wearing masks
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Old 06-18-2020, 05:09 PM
 
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The same people who complain how the pandemic response is overblown and how everything should re-open because economic pain is too much are the same ones complaining Cuomo is hiding numbers to make the pandemic seem less severe. We get it. You don't like NY.

The reality is, the governor needs to weigh the pros and cons of re-opening against the backdrop of certain uptick in infection. But the benefits of re-opening will be completely moot if people live in fear of infections and don't come out to dine and shop. So the governor needs to delicately thread the needle to address both concerns.
Agreed he does.Delicately threading the needle is a perfect description.
But it's the politically correct bs people can't stand.
Don't tell people to close their businesses and bleed money to stop the spread, close parks, tell people they can't swim at the beach etc but then act like protests won't spread covid. It's insane.
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