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No, nothing I said magnifies your argument that England had set up the USA for making money, and therefore even crime makes money here. I pointed out that England had set up Singapore also for making money (and even much more so than the USA, which was actually also set up for people who wanted to escape religious persecution... no such thing in Singapore, a city-state which was actually set up expressly and solely for making money) - yet, crime does not make money in Singapore, it makes the basis for caning and capital punishment (with the result that crime is nearly completely extinct in Singapore).
Singapore was not founded on "religious persecution." America was founded on rebellion, not on cohesion. Doomed from the start.
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If you consider money a form of barter in a mutually supporting and mutually competing group (where every individual is naturally trying to maximize his/her own resources), then every human society and a variety of animal societies have been literally built to make some eqivalent of money. But all societies on this planet that have virtually no crime are the societies where punishments for crime are high enough to deter crime.
Speaking of Singapore, it was indeed also built by the English, and it was built as a trading port - so, with a very clear purpose to make money. So? If anything, their strict law enforcement ensures that the money is being made in orderly lawful ways, and in safe pleasant surroundings.
Btw, Singapore is very diverse. The Chinese population is dominant, but Tamil Indian and Malayan populations (that are both very dark skinned) are quite large as well, and Westerners are numerous as well, though they mostly tend to be non-permanent. The genetic mixture of the Chinese and Malays is also very prevalent, actually probably the second most numerous population after the Chinese. Plus millions of tourists from everywhere. But the city is safer than safe, at all times of day and night.
Meh
I can't post it here, but there's a nice thread on Reddit about racism in Singapore.
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You still don't get the way this country operates.
I obviously do, since I did reasonably alright for myself in this country :-).
You are the one who doesn't get how everything operates: if you hunt something down, it becomes extinct; if you let it be (or even encourage it by finding excuses for it), it grows and multiplies. The only way to end crime is to hunt it down.
Singapore was not founded on "religious persecution." America was founded on rebellion, not on cohesion. Doomed from the start.
Dude, can't you read? I did not say Singapore was founded on religious persecution - I specifically said that it was NOT founded on that, it was founded only and solely on trading, ie, on money.
I said that the US was founded partly as a refuge from religious persecution, which is certainly correct. Haven't you heard of Pilgrims and Quakers pretty early in the history of the US, and in a more recent history Jewish folks from everywhere? And after all, even myself - a person for whom escaping religious persecution was the main, the absolute main reason (with all other possible reasons very, VERY far behind it) for settling in the US?
I obviously do, since I did reasonably alrigjt for myself in this country :-).
You are the one who doesn't get how everything operates: if you hunt something down, it becomes extinct; if you let it be (or even encourage it by finding excuses for it), it grows and multiplies. The only way to end crime is to hunt it down.
I mean if money is the only barometer for your life success then by all means
However, the current climate is how it works here
You want excuses, there are none, everything is laid in front of you clear as day.
Geneva Switzerland just raised their minimum wage to like 50K a year
More your speed.
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Dude, can't you read? I did not say Singapore was founded on religious persecution - I specifically said that it was NOT founded on that, it was founded only and solely on trading, ie, on money.
I said that the US was founded partly as a refuge from religious persecution, which is certainly correct. Haven't you heard of Pilgrims and Quakers pretty early in the history of the US, and in a more recent history Jewish folks from everywhere? And after all, even myself - a person for whom escaping religious persecution was the main, the absolute main reason (with all other possible reasons very, VERY far behind it) for settling in the US?
Tiger City, I know
But you're attempting to compare a majorily homogenous Asian city-state to a city on the planet that speaks 800 languages.
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I can't post it here, but there's a nice thread on Reddit about racism in Singapore.
Have you been to Singapore? I have. It is a totally equal-opportunity place, very modern, with a high standard of living for everyone. Racism in Singapore is a private thing between certain individuals, but it isn't (and it actually never was) officially sanctioned in any way. There are relatively fewer Malays in upper-level professions, but there are some, and they are not prohibited (and never were) from seeking careers (while following the same educational steps and social rules as everyone else) if that is what they want. I just mentioned that there has historically been extensive intermarriage between the Chinese (who are on the top of economic hierarchy) and Malays (who are on the bottom). Their mixed-race offspring are called Peranakans, and some of them are actually among the most privileged old Singaporean families of traders.
But you're attempting to compare a majorily homogenous Asian city-state to a city on the planet that speaks 800 languages.
Okay, in one post you argue that Singapore is somehow rife with racism, and in the very next post that it is majorly homogeneous. It can't be both :-).
Singapore is not homogeneous at all. Yes, the Chinese, Tamil and Malays are all Asians, but the concept of "Asia" is a human construct, while these three populations (that developed in very different parts of a huge landmass that encompasses 1/3 of the planet) are genetically very different, look very different, and come from very different cultures.
The fact that there are 800 languages spoken in NYC has nothing to do with crime. Per NYPD database, there are only about 2,000 people in NYC who repeatedly commit most of the crime. I am pretty sure at least 95% of them speak only two languages, ie, either English or Spanish :-). I think the speakers of the other 798 languages in NYC contribute pretty minimally to the NYC crime statistics.
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