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Old 02-09-2022, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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72/66 is cold??


I set mine to 58/48 . And even them my combined electric/gas bill is $150-200/month for 1800 square feet townhouse.



That is freezing, and would also be a call to 311.
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Old 02-09-2022, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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Yep, prepare for a cost of living crisis. The left LOVES to bring down people's standard of living in the name of "saving the planet™." Want to stay warm in winter? Pay up, chum. The WOKE are in charge.



eff the planet, half my life is over, now give me the GD heat
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Old 02-09-2022, 04:32 PM
 
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eff the planet, half my life is over, now give me the GD heat
I agree. I choose not to procreate so the heck with the planet. I want to be warm and not go in debt to do so.
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Old 02-10-2022, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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i agree. I choose not to procreate so the heck with the planet. i want to be warm and not go in debt to do so.







amen to that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 02-10-2022, 07:01 AM
 
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eff the planet, half my life is over, now give me the GD heat
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Old 02-10-2022, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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My bill was actually a great deal lower than years past. Been using the space heater less this time around, I guess...
Yep, just got a monthly Home Energy usage report from Con Ed saying congrats! I used 8% less energy compared to similar households & even beat the "energy efficient households". lol.

Surging Con Ed Bills Leave New Yorkers With Electric Burns

https://www.thecity.nyc/2022/2/9/229...electric-burns

Households in New York City are seeing big spikes in what they’re being charged this month, even though many aren’t using significantly more juice. We explain why, and what you can do.
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Old 02-12-2022, 11:33 AM
 
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I wouldn't say you run cold when you keep your temp at 72/66. Brrrrr I wouldn't be freezing at those temps.
66 is while I am under big blankets in bed with another body next to mine. It's only because we have trouble breathing at night otherwise.

72 and I am usually still under a blanket on the couch. And still always in a sweater/sweatshirt/etc.
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Old 02-18-2022, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Manhattan
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Utility Debt Mounting for New Yorkers Looking for Current Help
Rising energy costs amid the pandemic are leaving some New Yorkers underwater.

https://www.thecity.nyc/economy/2022...r-current-help

Higher utility bills are compounding unprecedented levels of debt, and consumer advocates say more public funds should be allocated for people who are behind on their payments.

“We’ve never had a level of unpaid utility debt like this,” said Richard Berkley, executive director of the Public Utility Law Project. “These are unpaid bills that the people owe them have no reasonable likelihood of being able to handle so where we’re creating a multi generational debt.... It’s a massive crisis.”

Across the state, almost 1.3 million residential gas and electric customers are 60 or more days behind on their bills to the tune of over $1.7 billion, according to an analysis by THE CITY of data provided to the state by 10 utility companies.

That includes 411,694 residential Con Ed customers in New York City and Westchester, who collectively owe $819,224,604, based on figures for January 2022.

Nine of the utility companies submitted data for the same time period in 2020 before the pandemic. Since then, considering the same nine companies’ latest data, the number of residential customers in arrears increased by over 32% and the total debt owed more than doubled.

A statewide pandemic-related moratorium on utility shut-offs for nonpayment expired Dec. 22. Although utilities have not reported cutting any residential customer’s gas or electricity, many people behind on their bills have received termination notices, the data shows.

The city, state and utility companies have been encouraging customers to apply for assistance and to enroll in payment plans, but whether enough has been allocated to prevent shut-offs is an open question.

Meanwhile, Con Ed says it’s examining how its billing practices affect customers after the state requested a review — and New York City residential customers will receive a small credit for the supply rates.

“This level of price volatility is of concern to all,” state Public Service Commission Chair Rory Christian Thursday said at a commission meeting, during which he emphasized that neither Con Ed nor the state controls energy supply rates.

“This experience serves as a reminder that we must consider energy affordability in every action we take,” he added.
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Old 02-19-2022, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Manhattan
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The electric bill is too damn high: Here’s why and what you can do about it

https://www.city-data.com/forum/new-...ll-last-3.html

People across New York state have opened their mailboxes in the last few weeks to find a nasty surprise waiting in the form of unseasonably high electric bills.

Governor Kathy Hochul has since called for Con Edison to reform its billing practices, and regulators at the Public Service Commission (PSC) say the utility company needs to better prepare its energy reserves – and its customers – for times when prices spike.

But that doesn’t immediately help the many New Yorkers who are suddenly seeing bills two or three times higher than usual for the winter months. These uncertainties paired with the complex nature of New York’s energy utilities has left ratepayers upset by the unexpected bills, confused about why this happened, and what can be done about it.

Here are some answers...
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Old 02-19-2022, 03:51 PM
 
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Meanwhile, Con Ed says it’s examining how its billing practices affect customers after the state requested a review — and New York City residential customers will receive a small credit for the supply rates.
I guess a small credit is better than none at all but this is not a new issue. I posted here years ago how the electric supply charge per kWh could be 6 cents one month and 18 cents the next month. The bill is so complicated with a breakdown of electric supply charges and delivery charges as well as the same for gas, plus the taxes and fees. Most people probably don’t look at anything but the amount due and don’t complain unless it goes up a huge amount like this month.
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