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Old 09-09-2022, 09:13 PM
 
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I thought I was the only one to notice a pattern. Look up Allensworth CA going back to 1966 as well. Some aren't going to get it...

That was the town in Cali I was thinking of. Good call. Another American tragedy.
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Old 09-09-2022, 09:40 PM
 
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So you are not going to say it and keep us guessing?
As far as I can tell, most of these places are majority minority cities that have been ruled by the Democratic party for many many decades, since around World War 2 at least. All of them have African-American administrations, city councils and mayors, and are practically one-party municipalities with no credible opposition. I don't see any other commonalities. Jackson in particular is some kind of father-son hereditary socialist/Black nationalist little fiefdom.

City administrators control neither the funding or sources of water. Those decisions come from the state. Furthermore, the commonality is that each of these majority black towns somehow have severe disinvestment in their water infrastructure along with outright poisoning by state officials for no rational reason (e.g., Flint, MI). Can you name 5 majority white / latino / asian / other towns in recent history who have endured a similar water crisis?



And keep this in mind - Jackson is the state capitol of Mississippi. The governor and all of the state officials work in the capitol And yet, years of citizens complaining about the water has yielded no correction. What characteristics of Tallahassee, Austin, or Boise allows these state capitals to circumvent a similar water crisis?
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Old 09-10-2022, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Staten Island
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The latest is that the absolutely totally inept lab doing the testing 'retracts results that showed arsenic in water'. So just WTF is going on at the Jacob Riis houses? Still no explanation for the cloudy water, which happens all over the city at times and usually means nothing. Why did the city go to an outside lab, couldn't the NYCDOH have performed the tests?



https://nypost.com/2022/09/09/lab-re...complex-water/
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Old 09-10-2022, 09:05 AM
 
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Go look up information about all of those places, including the place I mentioned.
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That was the town in Cali I was thinking of. Good call. Another American tragedy.
The US is a country of almost 3.6million square miles wiith a population between 200 million and 330 million from 1960 -present.

Both of you literally brought up a handful of examples and claim to show a pattern?
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Old 09-10-2022, 09:14 AM
 
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City administrators control neither the funding or sources of water. Those decisions come from the state. Furthermore, the commonality is that each of these majority black towns somehow have severe disinvestment in their water infrastructure along with outright poisoning by state officials for no rational reason (e.g., Flint, MI). Can you name 5 majority white / latino / asian / other towns in recent history who have endured a similar water crisis?



And keep this in mind - Jackson is the state capitol of Mississippi. The governor and all of the state officials work in the capitol And yet, years of citizens complaining about the water has yielded no correction. What characteristics of Tallahassee, Austin, or Boise allows these state capitals to circumvent a similar water crisis?
Mississippi is the poorest state in the nation.

There are plenty of things that the NYC administration doesn't fix and we have one of the largest per capita budgets of any city in the US.
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Old 09-10-2022, 09:34 AM
 
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now Gantz... you folks on the right have no viable solution for Public Housing, so lets just not...

U had Guiliani AND Bloomberg here who did NOTHING for NYCHA

let's nooooooooot
The city taxpayers subsidize NYCHA to the tune of $6 billion per year. Giuliani and Bloomberg kept the status quo so they did do something for it. They continued the gravy train.

The welfare entitlement is so strong in NYC that people like you believe that having taxpayers heavily subsidize rent for the vast majority of people in NYCHA who are perfectly capable human beings is normal.
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Old 09-10-2022, 09:39 AM
 
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The city taxpayers subsidize NYCHA to the tune of $6 billion per year. Giuliani and Bloomberg kept the status quo so they did do something for it. They continued the gravy train.

The welfare entitlement is so strong in NYC that people like you believe that having taxpayers heavily subsidize rent for the vast majority of people in NYCHA who are perfectly capable human beings is normal.
Wonder how things would be if NYCHa went away for good.
If you can’t afford a car, you don’t have a car.
If you can’t afford a room, you move to where you can afford it.

I don’t get this subsidized living crap. Why? And for what?
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Old 09-10-2022, 12:05 PM
 
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The city taxpayers subsidize NYCHA to the tune of $6 billion per year. Giuliani and Bloomberg kept the status quo so they did do something for it. They continued the gravy train.

The welfare entitlement is so strong in NYC that people like you believe that having taxpayers heavily subsidize rent for the vast majority of people in NYCHA who are perfectly capable human beings is normal.

Endless money pit filled with taxpayers money.


That $6B works out to approx -


$11,201 per NYCHA resident, $33,790 per NYCHA apartment.




4.92% (approx 1 in 20) of all the residential units in NYC is in a NYCHA building.
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Old 09-10-2022, 11:50 PM
 
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Wonder how things would be if NYCHa went away for good.
If you can’t afford a car, you don’t have a car.
If you can’t afford a room, you move to where you can afford it.

I don’t get this subsidized living crap. Why? And for what?
The entitlement is so baked in that some people (look at this forum) get indignant when anyone even mentions welfare.

I remember growing up in the 90s and even though welfare was around, people had to jump through hoops to get it. There was also at least some stigma attached that motivated people to use it as a last resort or to get off of it at first chance.

Some years ago, I saw the city advertising EBT on the subway. Then I started seeing more and more advertisements for various welfare programs by the city. In what normal city, does the government advertise welfare? it's clearly become an industry for the city and any normal person realizes that this isn't healthy nor sustainable in the long run.

I'm not against welfare. I am completely OK with welfare being a long term solution for the elderly/disabled or a short term aid for those down on their luck. What we have in this city is welfare becoming institutionalized. It's become a way of life for a not insignificant part of the population. This occured during BDB as the city budget grew at a furious pace over his tenure.
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Old 09-11-2022, 12:06 AM
 
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Endless money pit filled with taxpayers money.


That $6B works out to approx -


$11,201 per NYCHA resident, $33,790 per NYCHA apartment.




4.92% (approx 1 in 20) of all the residential units in NYC is in a NYCHA building.
The average tenure at NYCHA is 24.7 years as of 2022. In 2019 it was 23 years. Only 23% of NYCHA residents are 62 or older.
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