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Old 10-23-2022, 07:06 AM
 
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Although it takes gentries to change a neighborhood these people will come quickly when there are
beautiful buildings with doormen erected as opposed to moving into a rat infested ghetto.

Architect /property developers know that if they build they will come.

Unfortunately , developers ( my opinion ) have changed the fabric of neighborhoods for worse due to over development.
Many do not live in N.Y.C. let alone the Unites States yet they enjoy using our neighborhoods as their sandbox project.

I do support development but let the community board have the final say not politicians that live outside of the 5 boroughs
on when and where to develop.

I'm sure many N.Y.C. residents are familiar with the scenario.
" You live on a block of one family homes for many years only to come home one day
and find the neighbor's home torn down. A monster mansion is built in it's place. Blocks
your sunlight, your views, and sticks out like a sore thumb ."

Now imagine this on a monumental scale.
The hi rise blocks out sunlight for thousands of feet.
The views of the park or bay or forest no longer visible.
It is more than a sore thumb. It is a concrete tombstone
to the community but to new comers a welcoming mat of
polished marble , eloquent doormen, modern elevators
and views as far as the eyes can see..........


Gentrification:
Used to be defined as changing the character of a poor urban area.
The reality is changing the character of any urban area by means of development as long as money can be made.
Doesn't matter if development fails to attract new business. Doesn't matter if long time residents ( not particularly poor )
are displaced.

I have seen what has happened to L.I.C.
I have seen what has happened to Brooklyn along Flatbush.
I have seen what happened to Williamsburg
just to name a few...

................ and the transformation is less than appealing.
Columbia University along with Elliot Spitzer
Intimate domain a storage locker building they also took over a newly renovated building and moved the low income residents who have lived there for years and knock down the building I have no problem with gratification some places need it I do have problem with the hypocrisy from people like Columbia University who ranted against it for years!!
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Old 10-23-2022, 03:44 PM
 
Location: NY
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Columbia University along with Elliot Spitzer
Intimate domain a storage locker building they also took over a newly renovated building and moved the low income residents who have lived there for years and knock down the building I have no problem with gratification some places need it I do have problem with the hypocrisy from people like Columbia University who ranted against it for years!!
Absolutely..................

Columbia, last I remember was purchasing property up on 148th st.
Far and removed from its central location.
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Old 10-24-2022, 04:49 PM
 
Location: The Bronx
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Gentrification slowed down a lot under DeBlasio. People were talking about Bushwick gentrifying during Bloombergs 3rd term, if things had continued since then Bushwick would be fully gentrified by now.
You obviously didn't live in North Brooklyn under DeBlasio's two terms.... obvioulsy... this is when gentrification became final in most areas.
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Old 10-24-2022, 10:21 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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You obviously didn't live in North Brooklyn under DeBlasio's two terms.... obvioulsy... this is when gentrification became final in most areas.
Williamsburg, Greenpoint, Fort Greene etc. all gentrified like crazy under Bloomberg. Bushwick was starting to get a spillover from Williamsburg. Fast forward 8+ years later and the story is still the same, except all these areas are likely worse.
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Old 10-25-2022, 05:29 AM
 
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Williamsburg, Greenpoint, Fort Greene etc. all gentrified like crazy under Bloomberg. Bushwick was starting to get a spillover from Williamsburg. Fast forward 8+ years later and the story is still the same, except all these areas are likely worse.
Bed Stuy and Bushwick are now the modern incarnate of Hipster Williamsburg. I'm not sure exactly why (most likely huge rent increases) but post COVID, Bed Study and Bushwick gentrification is in hyper drive. Interest in ENY has exploded which just goes to show you how much pressure there is on Bed Study and Bushwick.
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Old 10-25-2022, 09:24 PM
 
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improved transit on a regional level (a RER/S-Bahn type of system) and zoning reforms for the entire region so that more housing is built throughout and that further flung parts are made more attractive, and developing more housing within the city but having mechanisms for them to not have massive portions of that sapped into short-term rentals and pied-a-terres. Ultimately, it'd be nice if the US had other larger, walkable urban cores as alternatives to NYC.
Yeah, dream on. In a city so crippled by NIMBYism and union corruption where a mere 3 new subway stations cost $10 billion and 10 years to build, I do not think we will ever see a new subway line or an express urban/suburban system like an S-Bahn or even London's Crossrail. Although it would be a massive improvement to the city's infrastructure for sure...

There are large walkable urban cores in the US as NYC alternatives. Chicago, Boston and even Washington DC all certainly come to mind.
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Old 10-25-2022, 09:34 PM
 
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How do you think Midwesterners who spend (at least) 4 years in college in the Northeast and then settle in NYC are classified?

You're woefully underestimating Midwestern transplants in NYC and it's probably because you're not familiar with where they live. They tend to be higher earning corporate and (now) tech types who are married and have families by their mid 30s. They're all over Manhattan and "brownstone"/ downtown Brooklyn.

Northeast transplants are way over -indexed in (what everyone used to call )"hipster" neighborhoods (current day Bed-Stuy, Bushwick, etc.). The Midwesterners who come to NYC tend to be the more ambitious and educated (on average) than Northeast transplants.

Also, when the "Midwest" is mentioned, most people mean "not from the Northeast or West Coast". It's not strictly what is geographically regarded as "the Midwest".
I'm not sure where you're getting the idea about such a dichotomy but I think both Midwesterners and East Coast people are about equally represented in both transplant "groups." Specifically I know for a fact that in the finance/corporate white collar transplant category there are definitely many regional people from Jersey, East PA, DC suburbs etc who come to NYC as well as the "big 10" graduate Midwesterners.

As for the "starving artist" transplants, they really come from all over the place. And in many ways I think they annoy me more than the white collar corporate types. It's usually the "starving artists" who scream the loudest in favor of woke lunacies such as bail reform, permanent rent freezes, endless illegal immigration etc.
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