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Old 11-17-2022, 04:48 PM
 
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Oh man I hope this passes. Even more of my favorite (former) NYC restaurants will move across the river!
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Old 11-17-2022, 05:06 PM
 
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Food delivery is very hard and dangerous work. I don't see a problem with them making 24 dollars an hour - which by the way, is a low wage.
You do realize that the cost will be borne out of customer pockets. There's no requirement for you or me to buy food from an app. Once ppl see how a $10 burger became $35 after taxes, fees, tips, surcharges, etc then they will either

A. Stay at home and cook

B. Dine inside

C. Pick up the food themselves
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Old 11-17-2022, 05:09 PM
 
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So only illegal immigrants are working as food delivery people? lol OK!
99% are given their poor English skills, 3rd world driving :which treat sidewalks as license to speed 35 mph past pedestrians, food apps' refusal to use e verify or an i9 form.
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Old 11-17-2022, 06:04 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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$24 plus tips is not a low wage for anyone that is unauthorized to be here working. Talk about an out of touch bleeding heart thinking that $50k per year is nothing.

The food delivery workers are part of a military invasion. The days of being considered a sanctuary city are long gone. It is a military operation now to replace Americans.

Now more and more of them will be making more money than lots of our own tax paying citizens. This does not even consider the trades and construction that American men used to have those careers and supported whole families. It is a shame.
I don't know where the assumption comes that all delivery people are illegals. The ones that I know are part time GrubHub and Uber drivers who complement their income doing deliveries during the evenings and weekends. I know of a woman who's making very good part time money during the evenings delivering liquor in Jersey City because she uses her vehicle. (Plus one of the liquor stores is her husband's so they have a very good gig going on there).
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Old 11-17-2022, 06:12 PM
 
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It'll be interesting to see if this passes, and how it's going to work. I find this part really important:

"The agency determined that workers should be paid based on trip time — time spent delivering — as well as time spent connected to the app waiting for a trip offer, instead of receiving payments per delivery. "

The delivery workers can choose to reject a delivery on an App; it's inconceivable to be paid while idling. They need to hash out this and other details. Also, Uber etc will fight very hard as the proposal rips through their business model.
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Old 11-17-2022, 07:04 PM
 
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It'll be interesting to see if this passes, and how it's going to work. I find this part really important:

"The agency determined that workers should be paid based on trip time — time spent delivering — as well as time spent connected to the app waiting for a trip offer, instead of receiving payments per delivery. "

The delivery workers can choose to reject a delivery on an App; it's inconceivable to be paid while idling. They need to hash out this and other details. Also, Uber etc will fight very hard as the proposal rips through their business model.
Thanks for mentioning Uber. Time to short that company with puts.
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Old 11-17-2022, 07:39 PM
 
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You do realize that the cost will be borne out of customer pockets. There's no requirement for you or me to buy food from an app. Once ppl see how a $10 burger became $35 after taxes, fees, tips, surcharges, etc then they will either

A. Stay at home and cook

B. Dine inside

C. Pick up the food themselves
So lets see here

The delivery guys are illegal
The restaurant workers are illegal
The phone apps are hiring schemes for illegals
The delivery trucks that deliver products to the restaurants are driven by a bunch of illegals
The grocery stores hire a bunch of illegals

Why the hell are any of you going to restaurants in this city? Why?
Is the food really good or something? (Answer: not really)

No kidding, I left the city the other week and was in a city far away from here. Weirdest thing: at the restaurant, i only saw legal workers. From the chefs to the front desk, the entire restaurant was employing legal citizens that clearly spoke English. Also it was like all the staff did not hate our guts for being Americans. None of them blatantly avoiding eye contact. Wacky concept I know!
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Old 11-17-2022, 07:45 PM
 
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Oh man I hope this passes. Even more of my favorite (former) NYC restaurants will move across the river!
What happens to the food delivery person who breaks laws or the rules of the road?
Are they free to break laws since they have questionable citizenship status?

One would think the food delivery person can get away with a lot more than us since it would be hard to identify someone who is protected so heavily as “undocumented”. It would require ICE or a deportation and that would take up so many resources from a law enforcement officers day.

It seems like illegals can basically do anything they want and get more free stuff than anybody else, while spitting in the faces of Americans. And if the Americans don’t like it, they just call us racists and it is like they are untouchable for some reason.
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Old 11-17-2022, 07:50 PM
 
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I don't know where the assumption comes that all delivery people are illegals. The ones that I know are part time GrubHub and Uber drivers who complement their income doing deliveries during the evenings and weekends. I know of a woman who's making very good part time money during the evenings delivering liquor in Jersey City because she uses her vehicle. (Plus one of the liquor stores is her husband's so they have a very good gig going on there).
Nice try back tracking your comments, and I think you are full of it.

The food deliveries are 99% illegal in Manhattan. My guess is around 300,000 full-time bike delivery “workers” across the boroughs, and likely more than 300,000.

Oh they “work hard” alright. (Working hard to poison Americans quality of life)
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Old 11-17-2022, 07:54 PM
 
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Just curious app workers can decline deliveries for certain reasons such a no tips. Can the company force the worker to deliver a low tip delivery (or no tip) if they pay the 23 dollar minimum wage and if the worker refuses fire them?

Imagine Uber eats drops tipping adds a service fee and pays worker 23 an hour. Workers will see a decrease In income.
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