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"The U.S. Supreme Court has recognized a "paramount public interest in a free flow of information to the people concerning public officials." Other federal courts have found that the First Amendment freedoms of the press and speech protect the right to film in public spaces."
Freedom of speech is not filming a video of events unfolding live in front of you
Speech is the formulation and articulation of ideas, you are not formulating or articulating anything by filming a live video
If you wrote a screenplay and filmed it, then that is a form of free speech
The courts have ruled that freedom of speech goes far beyond what you say or what you write. SCOTUS has ruled First Amendment cases on things from burning the US flag to pornography.
Even money is sometimes considered freedom of speech, such as when SCOTUS struck down campaign finance restrictions.
Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, 558 U.S. 310 (2010), is a landmark decision of the Supreme Court of the United States regarding campaign finance laws and free speech under the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. The court held 5–4 that the freedom of speech clause of the First Amendment prohibits the government from restricting independent expenditures for political campaigns by corporations, nonprofit organizations, labor unions, and other associations.
as a photographer i am well aware of all the federal and local laws we have as to where one can photograph or video others .
it is not just one law .it is many laws that define where we can and where we can’t .
unless there are no photography signs then any public place is fair game unless designated a secure area.
museums ,airports , military installations , etc are considered secure locations .
Despite previous actions of the NYC transit police, you can also legally take photographs in the NYC subway. In fact Rule 1050.9 (c) of the state code says, “Photography, filming or video recording in any facility or conveyance is permitted except that ancillary equipment such as lights, reflectors or tripods may not be used.
so anyone i view publicly can be photographed or videoed … what i can’t do is use that commercially or for an agenda that is controversial.
such as if i took a photo or video of you and then used it for my anti fur coat campaign …
the laws regarding media today is so complex my sons law firm has an entire division devoted to media law .
unless there are no photography signs up pretty much any one can be taken in public areas
there are different laws for different locations , as an example
so it isn’t a freedom of speech law that dictates what we can do , but more laws then you can imagine that are actually involved and many vary state to state
States often have their own rules and regulations and these are often selectively enforced.
For example California Code of Regulations Title 14, Section 4316 "Commercial Filming Except when authorized by State Parks, no person shall photograph, videotape or film for commercial (profit and sale) purposes in any unit, or portion thereof, owned operated or administered by the department without a permit from the California Film Commission, pursuant to Government Code section".
The letter of the law appears to prohibit photography by a single photographer with a P&S camera without a permit if that photographer intended to use the images for sale. I doubt anyone has been prosecuted under such circumstances but they could be. It is true that amateurs using what looks like "professional photography equipment" to a Park Ranger have been challenged and told they couldn't take pictures without a permit.
my wife and i were challenged at planting fields in long island because of our gear by a ranger
we are constantly challenged at queens botanical gardens as to whether we are amateur or professional because of our gear .
so arguing over one law like freedom of speech is silly because it more involves local laws then federal ones or catch all parts of the constitution
Your basic right is actually pretty simple: if you’re in a public place and you can see it, you can shoot it. This means as long as you’re in a public location you can legally take almost any picture. However, if you’re using a telephoto lens, parabolic microphone, or hidden camera to get a shot of a private property when you’re standing on public property you might have an issue if someone on that property has an expectation of privacy. So, what constitutes a public place? Most places are obvious, a park, a street, a soccer field—these are unquestionably legal places to take pictures of anything happening. But what about all those Instagram photos of food you’ve taken inside a business? That’s a little different.
Generally if a private property is open to the public (like a restaurant, retail store, tourist areas, etc) you are allowed to take photographs and video unless it is expressly posted somewhere on the premise that you can’t.
In most cases it’s okay to assume you’re allowed to take pictures and video in a shop that doesn’t expressly forbid it. However, if a property owner (or store employee) tells you to stop, you have to stop. so that over rides the freedom of speech some are claiming
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Imagine being a victim and people posting it ? Kind of sad but it’s someone’s right to video it. Just like it’s someone’s right to boo someone.
It’s 2024. The moment you step out of your home you are under surveillance from somewhere, often times by more than one (dashcams, security cams, traffic cams, cellphone cams, drones cams, etc.) Most of that footage will go nowhere, but some might end up in social media. Just make sure your face doesn’t appears attached to someone else’s naked body in some porn, but there is really not much you can do about most other things, especially if you were videotapped while in public property. In a private property, whether open to the public such as a mall or private all the way, there will be signs letting you know you are being videotapped. The signs don’t say the cams will be turn off if you complaint. Signs of the times.
Many folks even have cams inside their homes, so they are under surveillance 24/7.
If you look extremely good looking, very weird, similar to a famous person or historical figure, unusual, etc; expect even more cameras known and unknown to be pointing your way. That is simply the way it is.
The only way you can be certain your face will not be caught by any cam is by wearing tinted faceshields from the COVID era plus a mask (or a burka if you are a muslim woman) or combine mask with sunglasses. There is no other way around that.
It’s 2024. The moment you step out of your home you are under surveillance from somewhere, often times by more than one (dashcams, security cams, traffic cams, cellphone cams, drones cams, etc.) Most of that footage will go nowhere, but some might end up in social media. Just make sure your face doesn’t appears attached to someone else’s naked body in some porn, but there is really not much you can do about most other things, especially if you were videotapped while in public property. In a private property, whether open to the public such as a mall or private all the way, there will be signs letting you know you are being videotapped. The signs don’t say the cams will be turn off if you complaint. Signs of the times.
Many folks even have cams inside their homes, so they are under surveillance 24/7.
If you look extremely good looking, very weird, similar to a famous person or historical figure, unusual, etc; expect even more cameras known and unknown to be pointing your way. That is simply the way it is.
The only way you can be certain your face will not be caught by any cam is by wearing tinted faceshields from the COVID era plus a mask (or a burka if you are a muslim woman) or combine mask with sunglasses. There is no other way around that.
I understand that. I’m just saying imagine if was you. It’s totally legal though. I’m not debating that at all.
It’s 2024. The moment you step out of your home you are under surveillance from somewhere, often times by more than one (dashcams, security cams, traffic cams, cellphone cams, drones cams, etc.) Most of that footage will go nowhere, but some might end up in social media. Just make sure your face doesn’t appears attached to someone else’s naked body in some porn, but there is really not much you can do about most other things, especially if you were videotapped while in public property. In a private property, whether open to the public such as a mall or private all the way, there will be signs letting you know you are being videotapped. The signs don’t say the cams will be turn off if you complaint. Signs of the times.
Many folks even have cams inside their homes, so they are under surveillance 24/7.
If you look extremely good looking, very weird, similar to a famous person or historical figure, unusual, etc; expect even more cameras known and unknown to be pointing your way. That is simply the way it is.
The only way you can be certain your face will not be caught by any cam is by wearing tinted faceshields from the COVID era plus a mask (or a burka if you are a muslim woman) or combine mask with sunglasses. There is no other way around that.
Speech is the formulation and articulation of ideas, you are not formulating or articulating anything by filming a live video
I disagree.
You are articulating the notion that the event/scene is worth documenting.
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