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I'm not sure if things have changed since I was younger... but does any Harlemite refer to 7th and 8th Avenues as "Adam Clayton Powell Boulevard" and "Frederick Douglass Boulevard" respectively?
I'm just wondering since I know those are the official names but I rarely ever hear anyone refer to them as such. I mean, does anyone call 6th Avenue "Avenue of the Americas"?
I'm asking b/c I remember a while back when they started to install those Los Angeles-style overhead street signs - the signs first along AC Powell Blvd and Frederick Douglass Blvd said "7 Av" and "8 Av". I get the feeling that the DOT should just set it up like they have 6th Avenue in Manhattan: The "official" name on a higher street sign and the "familiar" name on the lower one.
good question....i wonder if the old-school harlemites still say 7th and 8th aves....i assume they still do.
any long-time harlem residents on the board?
as a side note, i know on the A train they changed the name of Broadway-East New York station to Broadway Junction station, to be uniform with the J/Z and L lines, because they were always named Broadway Junction. But I still say Broadway-East New York.
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Did people used to say the numbers? Or you mean they say the numbers now instead of the names?
thats what we're trying to figure...it used to be 7th avenue before it was adam clayton powell, and frederick douglass blvd was formerly 8th avenue. so we wonder if people still say 7th and 8th avenue....?
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I am a long time Harlem resident. My family has been there since 1928. Even though I grew up in the Bronx, I was born there and returned as teenager, and I've been there ever since.
Anyway to answer your questions, all long time Harlem residents still say 7th and 8th Ave, unless we are obviously talking to someone that is not a long term resident. We then use the current names so that we don't confuse the person we are communicating with.
How do you know that a person is not a long term resident or not even a resident at all? They usually use the terms Adam Clayton Powell and Federick Douglas Blvd. When long term residents are talking with each other it is just faster and easier to say 7th and 8th, we know where we are referring to.
I used to live in Morningside Heights and Washington Heights. For whatever reason I called 8th Ave Frederick Douglass but once you get to the upper 150s or 160s don't the names change again? It's been a while. Isn't there some point where they are referred to by one name? when I used to give directions I would call the avenue by whatever name was apparent in the area.
And 6 Avenue officially became Avenue of the Americas in 1964. It's been nearly half a century, and New Yorkers still call it 6 Avenue. Just too many syllables...by the time you get "Avenue of the Americas" out of your mouth, you're practically on Seventh!
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