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Old 12-18-2018, 06:41 PM
 
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It shouldn't be made legal until there is a police test similar to DWI that can be administered. If I can't drink n drive on Long Island, and constantly am going thru checkpoints, nor can the POTHEADS.
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Old 12-18-2018, 06:42 PM
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The money will go to salaries, bennies, and pensions.
That's it. End of story. Thread over.
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Old 12-18-2018, 07:26 PM
 
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It shouldn't be made legal until there is a police test similar to DWI that can be administered. If I can't drink n drive on Long Island, and constantly am going thru checkpoints, nor can the POTHEADS.
Where are you driving through checkpoints constantly? There are many drug related arrests for motorists. In Europe there is a test for marijuana using saliva.
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Old 12-19-2018, 11:06 AM
 
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It shouldn't be made legal until there is a police test similar to DWI that can be administered. If I can't drink n drive on Long Island, and constantly am going thru checkpoints, nor can the POTHEADS.
There already is a test, it's called a field sobriety test. If you pass it, you are not impaired. There is a difference between having by-products of cannabis in your blood and being impaired. Cops in states where it is already legal get special training to spot impairment. There is also a saliva test that can detect whether you have used cannabis with the last few hours. In addition, several companies are working on other tests.

You have to look at it like this: All of the people that tend to participate in high risk activities are already driving while high/impaired or on a cell phone. A law isn't going to stop them anymore than it stops drunks. When cannabis is made legal, the people who tend to trend low risk, may use cannabis, but they still would consider driving high risk, so they won't do it, just like they don't do it now.

Also consider that just because something is legal to use, does not mean that everyone is going to use it? If they made heroin legal tomorrow, would you use it? Of course not!
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Old 12-19-2018, 11:22 AM
 
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Is it? If drugs were legal 100% who knows how many more addicts there would be how many more overdoses and deaths. Look this could turn into an endless, pointless tit for tat debate I’m not going to bother, you are certainly welcome to your opinion as I am mine.
No one is talking about legalizing all drugs. They should, but we're not there yet. Let's get back on topic. You can't overdose on cannabis and die.

If you have no experience, you may feel like you are dying if you over indulge, but you're not. It also doesn't create addicts in the traditional sense of intense craving and physical discomfort like nicotine, since it has the addition potential of coffee, not heroin.

However, if you have an addictive personality, you can form a habit that can be difficult to break with side effects like irritability, loss of sleep, and loss of appetite. But for moderate users, they can stop at any time with no ill effects.

Everyone is welcome to their own opinion, but not their own FACTS.
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Old 12-19-2018, 11:34 AM
 
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Yes it is pathetic, 1.7 billion is peanuts that the taxpayer on the street will never see so spare me your "its good for tax revenue" trash. And lol at the bleeding heart SJW nonsense. Nobody goes to jail for simple possession anymore. Enjoy frying your brain with that foul smelling crap.
No, very few people go to jail for possession, but those who do are mostly poor brown people. While most arrested for possession don't go to jail, they do still get arrested, and that is worse than going to jail because an arrest record will follow you around your whole life, affecting your ability to get a job, housing, etc.

Then there is always the possibility that, based on the amount you have when you get arrested, you can be charged with possession with intent to distribute (based solely on the amount, they don't have to actually prove intent), in that case you will not only go to jail, but possibly prison. If the Feds get you, that will be Federal prison - with mandatory minimums and no parole.

You wouldn't be laughing if you were brown and poor, instead of merely uneducated on this topic.
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Old 12-19-2018, 11:46 AM
 
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No, very few people go to jail for possession, but those who do are mostly poor brown people. While most arrested for possession don't go to jail, they do still get arrested, and that is worse than going to jail because an arrest record will follow you around your whole life, affecting your ability to get a job, housing, etc.

Then there is always the possibility that, based on the amount you have when you get arrested, you can be charged with possession with intent to distribute (based solely on the amount, they don't have to actually prove intent), in that case you will not only go to jail, but possibly prison. If the Feds get you, that will be Federal prison - with mandatory minimums and no parole.

You wouldn't be laughing if you were brown and poor, instead of merely uneducated on this topic.
Please spare me your bleeding heart SJW talking points cheech, I can assure you I am more educated on this topic then you ever will be.
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Old 12-19-2018, 11:50 AM
 
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No one is talking about legalizing all drugs. They should, but we're not there yet. Let's get back on topic. You can't overdose on cannabis and die.

If you have no experience, you may feel like you are dying if you over indulge, but you're not. It also doesn't create addicts in the traditional sense of intense craving and physical discomfort like nicotine, since it has the addition potential of coffee, not heroin.

However, if you have an addictive personality, you can form a habit that can be difficult to break with side effects like irritability, loss of sleep, and loss of appetite. But for moderate users, they can stop at any time with no ill effects.

Everyone is welcome to their own opinion, but not their own FACTS.
Uh I was responding to monstermagnet who suggested ending the drug war effectively legalizing all drugs. Try actually reading a post before you respond.
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Old 12-19-2018, 12:22 PM
 
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No, very few people go to jail for possession, but those who do are mostly poor brown people. While most arrested for possession don't go to jail, they do still get arrested, and that is worse than going to jail because an arrest record will follow you around your whole life, affecting your ability to get a job, housing, etc.

Then there is always the possibility that, based on the amount you have when you get arrested, you can be charged with possession with intent to distribute (based solely on the amount, they don't have to actually prove intent), in that case you will not only go to jail, but possibly prison. If the Feds get you, that will be Federal prison - with mandatory minimums and no parole.

You wouldn't be laughing if you were brown and poor, instead of merely uneducated on this topic.
There is almost nothing in this post that is correct. Please stop posting about stuff that you know nothing about.
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Old 12-19-2018, 12:47 PM
 
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Uh I was responding to monstermagnet who suggested ending the drug war effectively legalizing all drugs. Try actually reading a post before you respond.
The "drug war" has little to do with legalization, and marijuana legalization has nothing to do with "100% legal drugs" which will NEVER happen! We have had laws on the books for centuries. Enforced willy nilly (just like immigration). The "war on drugs" was a ham handed, POLITICAL reaction to the crack epidemic. It basically militarized the police and created a massive private prison system. It wiped out a generation of "black and brown" from the work force. Best yet, it did NOTHING to stop drugs or drug related crime but it did buy local police squads some awesome anti-tank and SWAT gear and changed the rules on what they could get away with while fighting "a war!" lol

1. Prohibitions don't work. Not for alcohol, not for weed. It is also moronic and disingenuous to treat weed the same legally as heroin, fentanyl or crack. It's just flat out stooopid.

2. "Wars" on inanimate concepts like "drugs" or "terror" are just money grabs that allow politicians to rubber stamp spending and give police and military a blank check and carte blanche to step all over people's rights, usually built on a foundation of fear and lies.
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