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Old 01-15-2023, 08:00 AM
 
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^Yup and no way is it going to be touched in terms of development. So, that portion of the drive in between Rochester and Syracuse will not be touched.
Such a small place, and basically runs north and south. Plenty of available land between R & S. BTW, never be touched? I would direct you to the topic at hand. The superhighway I 90 goes right through it. Same thing in northern Greece (NW of Rochester). Braddock Bay Wildlife Preserve. Development all around it.
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Old 01-15-2023, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Watervliet, NY
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Don't worry. They always have their hands in our pockets. They have a captive audience, so why not? Too bad it's not toll free, with more exits, where locals could offer some real food and home cooking, not whatever it is the FF joints sell
I live off of Exit 25 (where Guilderland Service Area is) and with everybody having access to GPS they are fully capable of finding places that serve much better food than McDonalds. Blue Ribbon Diner is right off of I-890, which connects to Exit 25. Not far from there is an Applebee's, and though it is a bit far from the Thruway, Glenville Queen is also good.
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Old 01-15-2023, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Watervliet, NY
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That may be easier said than done.

Those exits are quite far apart and some are exits only to other Interstate highways. Those include but are not limited to exits to the Mass. Turnpike extension (Exit 21-A), Interstate 787 (exit 23), 87 (where it becomes the Northway), I-90, where it becomes a spur road to connect to the Mass. Turnpike (both this exit and the connection to the Northway are exit 24), Interstate 88 (Exit 25-A), Exit 36 (I-81), Exit 46 (connection to I-390), and Exit 47 (connection to I-490), and probably others. Most of the other exits do not have any usable facilities close to those exits. For example, Exit 17, connecting to I-84, does have some local access, but that is a pretty desolate area. Access at other areas is awkward.

The exits are often far apart, which is why plazas were built in the first place. The distance between exits 40 and 41, 39 and 40, 34 and 34-A, 30 and 31, 29 and 29-A are forbidding. Are people supposed to take care of their needs in the woods?
Exit 25A also connects to Rotterdam, NY, so you either get on I-88 OR go into Rotterdam.

Exit 23 takes you to I-787 which puts you right into downtown Albany. Also Exit 24 allows you to get off onto Route 20, OR the Northway, OR I-90 east. There are a number of eateries and other businesses right off of the start of the Northway, including Crossgates Mall and Colonie Center, numerous restaurants and gas stations.
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Old 01-15-2023, 10:50 AM
 
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Such a small place, and basically runs north and south. Plenty of available land between R & S. BTW, never be touched? I would direct you to the topic at hand. The superhighway I 90 goes right through it. Same thing in northern Greece (NW of Rochester). Braddock Bay Wildlife Preserve. Development all around it.
Braddock Bay Preserve is literally a little over 21% the size of Montezuma for one. Second, it is a municipal preserve, not a Federal reserve.

Third, any Micron development is going to be near the facility. So, even thinking that development would go that far to the west is pretty far fetched. Especially when Oswego County is much closer, quite rural and has room for growth, as do parts of Onondaga, Cayuga and Madison Counties in the Syracuse metro area/CSA.

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Old 01-15-2023, 11:18 AM
 
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Braddock Bay Preserve is literally a little over 21% the size of Montezuma for one. Second, it is a municipal preserve, not a Federal reserve.

Third, any Micron development is going to be near the facility. So, even thinking that development would go that far to the west is pretty far fetched. Especially when Oswego County is much closer, quite rural and has room for growth, as do parts of Onondaga, Cayuga and Madison Counties in the Syracuse metro area/CSA.
You're missing the point. There will be ancillary development, but not necessarily in Onondaga county. UR and RIT are always mentioned in these big projects, and I'm sure many people also will be commuting from Rochester and other places
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Old 01-15-2023, 12:13 PM
 
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You're missing the point. There will be ancillary development, but not necessarily in Onondaga county. UR and RIT are always mentioned in these big projects, and I'm sure many people also will be commuting from Rochester and other places
Some might, but the vast majority of the development, including ancillary development, will be in the Syracuse area.

Syracuse University is right there and Cornell is closer to the site. So, it isn’t like there aren’t other institutions close by.

Besides, the location and the room for growth, among other factors, is what allowed the Syracuse area to attract Micron. Even within city limits, there is space for development in the Inner Harbor/Franklin Square area of the city to the point that a whole new neighborhood could be developed.
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Old 01-15-2023, 01:09 PM
 
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Some might, but the vast majority of the development, including ancillary development, will be in the Syracuse area.

Syracuse University is right there and Cornell is closer to the site. So, it isn’t like there aren’t other institutions close by.

Besides, the location and the room for growth, among other factors, is what allowed the Syracuse area to attract Micron. Even within city limits, there is space for development in the Inner Harbor/Franklin Square area of the city to the point that a whole new neighborhood could be developed.
Maybe if you read my posts, you would already know that there is one company moving within the Rochester economic area which will employ over 300 high paying jobs, and the Micron plant was mentioned in that regards.
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Old 01-15-2023, 01:42 PM
 
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Some might, but the vast majority of the development, including ancillary development, will be in the Syracuse area.

Syracuse University is right there and Cornell is closer to the site. So, it isn’t like there aren’t other institutions close by.

Besides, the location and the room for growth, among other factors, is what allowed the Syracuse area to attract Micron. Even within city limits, there is space for development in the Inner Harbor/Franklin Square area of the city to the point that a whole new neighborhood could be developed.
I went to Cornell. In no way is it close to the NYS Thruway. Either the stops or more exits are needed. Full stop.
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Old 01-15-2023, 01:55 PM
 
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Maybe if you read my posts, you would already know that there is one company moving within the Rochester economic area which will employ over 300 high paying jobs, and the Micron plant was mentioned in that regards.
I do, but that still doesn’t mean that development will go towards Rochester. Also, why would that announcement lure development, when there is a similar facility that is less than an hour away to the east? Meaning, there would be a similar employment option closer to the Micron site that is up and running. Cree/Wolfspeed in Marcy near Utica and Rome is hiring, for those interested: https://cree.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/E...397de0ae304326

Again, most of the development will be in the Syracuse area, by the way, the facility will be close to I-81 as well.

To the other post, I didn’t say that Cornell is near the Thruway. I said Cornell is closer to the Micron site outside of Syracuse in comparison to those 2 Rochester area institutions. Context is important when reading that post.

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Old 01-16-2023, 06:54 AM
 
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I do, but that still doesn’t mean that development will go towards Rochester. Also, why would that announcement lure development, when there is a similar facility that is less than an hour away to the east? Meaning, there would be a similar employment option closer to the Micron site that is up and running. Cree/Wolfspeed in Marcy near Utica and Rome is hiring, for those interested: https://cree.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/E...397de0ae304326

Again, most of the development will be in the Syracuse area, by the way, the facility will be close to I-81 as well.

To the other post, I didn’t say that Cornell is near the Thruway. I said Cornell is closer to the Micron site outside of Syracuse in comparison to those 2 Rochester area institutions. Context is important when reading that post.
Yes, Cornell is 8 whole minutes closer. Not even worth mentioning. BTW, just because a college is nearby, it doesn't mean they can offer any expertise for the project.
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