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mine too but God forbid I call into work sick when one of my animals is ill. And at least one of them has been quite sick at times. And the day my cat was dying and the vet had sent her home to die--I had to leave her home alone until I got in from work because -well-she isn't my child and my co-worker had taken yet another day to stay home with her sick kid(which if that kid is as sick as the number of days she takes time off implies, then he needs a specialist) Pet parents have heartaches over our fur babies too but we don't get a pass to stay home with them when they are really sick OR dying.
I just lie and take a sick day or two. F*ck 'em if they don't get it.
Re-populating is the very last thing we need to do. Our poor planet is already groaning underneath the stress of over seven billion humans scratching, killing, digging, and burning everything in sight.
Does anyone really believe that the world will be a better place to live with ten billion? Because that's where we're headed.
About your other points! We all need to move near one another so we can look out for each other later in life The internet, sadly, won't cut it.
Re-populating the world is not what I meant .... I'm talking about US society, as unfortunately we tend to live in a cocoon over here. I mean keeping a balance, as we are skewing a little bit in the direction of Japan. Not enough young people being born to support an aging (and likely more disabled) population.
And although I'm pretty cynical, I guess I am a bit more optimistic about the direction of the world... despite our innumerable human flaws.
It appears that this thread has digressed into a child bashing thread.
I don't have a problem with kids, not really.... I do find that as I'm getting older, I don't even want to be around 20 somethings either........ LOL....
It appears that this thread has digressed into a child bashing thread.
Well, it started out fine, even though opinions differed... then was laced with a gnarly dose of bonce bashing for women who chose not to procreate (OTOH, apparently, it's okay for men to make their own societal decisions according to some posters)... then countered with a bit of breeder-bashing. I think some is tongue-in-cheek & 1 or possibly 2 'all women need to breed... it's their god-given job' are hoax posters. Still, I'm more amused by the rigid decisions some believe others should follow & nonplussed that some state their views so vociferously.
Common sense, courteousness & bottom line is we don't need to boldly interject our personal decisions on other people. And, if a woman is capable of taking care of herself, then whether she marries, lives with a partner, lives alone, has a child or doesn't... the fact that she's able to care for herself shows she's capable of making her own decisions on other issues which directly affect her life. So, perhaps truce should be called & people can comment on what they've done & why, rather than what others should do & why, imho.
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I don't have a problem with kids, not really.... I do find that as I'm getting older, I don't even want to be around 20 somethings either........ LOL....
My problems are always with adults. Kids are just fine.
Haha. Well, I may get my toes stepped on, but I'll say it anyway. I was thinking of situations where children have annoyed me & realized, it's not many fortunately, but rather than being the kids, it's the parents not directing the kids or not caring that the kids are bothersome to others that is the issue.
That & what others have said about parents regularly coming into work late (complete with crusty, sleepy eyes & cowlicked hair, obviously having just woken up), yet blaming the babysitter for being late... again; having to fill in for parents leaving work at 3pm for a kid's soccer game (gee, I'd like to play soccer at 3, why can't I leave?) or in the most extreme case, one supervisor gave her 3-yr old chicken pox 3 times in a 6-mo period. Really? Are you that daft that you can't keep a list of fabricated childhood diseases... at least switch off to measles once in awhile. I do get tired of the kid card being played by some, for example, when I've been told I have to work a weekend, because none of the parents can find weekend sitters... tough, find another or better yet, get out of the job force or work from home & stay home to raise your own children. Who knows what's being said or done when a child is being cared for by complete strangers? The news is filled with the answer.
The gnarly side is (again, in my experience) us young singles often had to be subjected to unfair, slag comments on being hungover or partying too hard if god forbid, we were 10-min late, had a headache or claimed to be tired. At least in my case, none of it true, but the unfairness is that it's okay to make detrimental comments about preconceived (or jealous) notions about my single lifestyle, yet lightening would have struck had I called out any of the parents on the above situations. And, in my experience, mums are very quick to toss in a 'It's hard raising kids! How would you know?!', as if they're the last ones the planet to know it's hard. Yes, we all know that... why don't you?
And, we never know to whom we're speaking... some mums screamed this at me when I had siblings living with me in my home & I was raising them. They didn't fall out of my womb, but I do know how time consuming it is... I did it, too (on one salary... I didn't have a husband paying 1/2 my bills... through salary or alimony/child support, like them)... at least for them, it was a choice to procreate... I raised kids due to breeders' irresponsibility & did a better job than most, from what I see. I never once complained about it.
Oh, this will be a never ending battle. I see it as a deeper issue. The problem is not responsible adults deciding to have or not have kids. And, many here are getting upset because they are responsible, whether they have kids or not & they're feeling as if their judgment is being questioned. The problem is when adults aren't responsible in any host of ways, don't have a solid, stable home before having kids or bite off more than they can chew... the I/we can have it all syndrome.
A deep breath & a bit more gratitude for others is due from parents, I feel. I can't see how my single lifestyle has been an obstacle for any parent in any place during my lifetime. But, parents lifestyles have had an unpleasant influence on me personally, in many ways... from covering for them at work to dealing with screaming/ill behaved/annoying/loud talking kids in stores/theatres/parks/restaurants & even having children almost run my 81-yr old mum over, because their parents don't teach them to be mindful of the physical comfort & safety of others. Just my personal opinion, agree or disagree.
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The thing I've been noticing lately about parents, is that I don't seem to be hearing parent "shushing" their kids. I mean I hear kids screaming around me all the time and you never seem to hear the follow up "Shush" or "Be quiet"
I remember growing up when kids got loud parent shut them right up....... don't seem to see that as much these days...
Probably part in parcel with the whole "no kids lose" thing we're seeing more and more of in sports, or every kids gets a trophy even if he sucks......
We're raising a nation of overly-coddled whiners.... you see it here all the time on CD, late teens or early 20's and they are practically still breast feeding....
We're raising a nation of overly-coddled whiners.... you see it here all the time on CD, late teens or early 20's and they are practically still breast feeding....
The age of consent and majority should be 50, now.
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and my co-worker had taken yet another day to stay home with her sick kid(which if that kid is as sick as the number of days she takes time off implies, then he needs a specialist
) Pet parents have heartaches over our fur babies too but we don't get a pass to stay home with them when they are really sick OR dying.
The internet, sadly, won't cut it.
