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Old 06-02-2017, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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I don't tip often because, they can work a higher paying job if they want more money like any other professional

I tip the same $1-2 no matter the cost of the food, because they aren't the ones cooking it. It takes the same skills to pour a premade drink/bring cooked food/clean a table

I may tip more if they do things beyond what is expected of their job description. Being a "good" waitress, means there is a "good" chance she keeps her job. That doesn't mean she gets more in tips.

Why do americans insist on using tips to bribe people into doing their job? I need to tip if I want good service? How about I complain to owner so he hires people willing to work?
God, I hope this is a fake post. The idea that the server is too stupid to get a better job and should be punished for it is appalling. If you want to eat food that's brought to you at your table, then you tip the person who brings it to you. Otherwise, go to McDonalds.
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Old 06-02-2017, 02:04 PM
 
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I've been told by people who got out of waiting tables, that most customers these days only tip 10%. That's at all kinds of restaurants, from downscale to upscale. On top of that, they're expected to share their tips with busboys and cooks.

That's why many places now enforce a mandatory tip for large parties.
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Old 06-02-2017, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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Tipping is voluntary .
Tipping is part of the social contract when you participate as a customer by, say, going to a restaurant.
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Old 06-02-2017, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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Per the bolded, do you live in the US? If so, the standard tip is 20%. Recently, I read that in NYC it is now 25%.

Is 25% the new standard for tipping? Depends where you eat - TODAY.com

^^^^From the article:

Nowadays, 15 percent isn’t an average tip – it’s a way of registering displeasure with the service.
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A study by Cornell University consumer behavior professor Michael Lynn, who examined 9,000 credit card receipts from a Poughkeepsie, N.Y. restaurant, found that more than a third of diners left tips greater than 20 percent.
So, that means about 2/3 left tips LESS THAN 20 percent.

So, standard tipping is less than 20 percent -- from the research and from the article.

Note: I almost always tip at least 20% of the pre-tax bill. I don't give tip on the tax.
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Old 06-02-2017, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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Let's say the bill comes to $100 plus $8.25 in sales tax before tip.

I'll tip $20 -- which is 20% of the bill. The total will then be $100 (bill) + $20 (tip) + $8.25 (tax). 20% tip.

What I find disingenuous is the "suggest tip amounts" on some bills include the tax in the tip. They would incorrectly calculate that a 20% tip on the above bill would be $21.65.

That would incorrectly be be $100 (bill) + $21.65 (tip) plus $8.25 (tax) which is a 21.65% tip rather than a 20% tip.
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Old 06-02-2017, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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Question for those of you following this thread:

How much do you tip on a bottle of wine that you purchase to accompany the meal?
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Old 06-02-2017, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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That would incorrectly be be $100 (bill) + $21.65 (tip) plus $8.25 (tax) which is a 21.65% tip rather than a 20% tip.
Honestly I'm not going to start pinching pennies on a couple of bucks extra to tip on the tax.

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Question for those of you following this thread:

How much do you tip on a bottle of wine that you purchase to accompany the meal?
Everything I've ever read says to tip the usual 15-20% on wine.
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Old 06-02-2017, 02:31 PM
 
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What I find disingenuous is the "suggest tip amounts" on some bills include the tax in the tip.
I find all tips suggestions disingenuous, tips should be based on whatever they get. Not 20%, 10%, etc

it's a "bonus", they should not be expecting it any more than I expect a year end bonus and spending the money before I have it in hand

Why would tipping the wine bottle be separate from the overall tip? And why would it matter? Does someone who drinks water not tip because water is free and wine cost money? Same effort to pour water as it is wine

Make it easy, if tax is $8.25, then they can get a tip of $8.25. Since tax is already based on %s, it's already listed. Why tip the govt less than the wait staff?
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The idea that the server is too stupid to get a better job and should be punished for it is appalling.
no, only if they are complaining they don't make enough. If a server makes a good base and likes the job, I have no issue with them. I have issue with anyone who complains and does nothing to do something about it.
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Old 06-02-2017, 02:33 PM
 
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I tip the same $1-2 no matter the cost of the food, because they aren't the ones cooking it. It takes the same skills to pour a premade drink/bring cooked food/clean a table
So stay home and cook it yourself then.

With any luck you'll eventually be stonewalled at the door of the restaurants you frequent.
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Old 06-02-2017, 02:35 PM
 
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With any luck you'll eventually be stonewalled at the door of the restaurants you frequent.
fortunately the owners like me as a paying customer

too bad servers can't decide who to serve, because they need that paycheck
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