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Old 06-30-2017, 04:14 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Annie53 View Post
He didn't just ask you for 1000 dollars......he made up a lie so you would give him 1000 dollars.....that is attempted FRAUD in my book.


What did they mean you couldn't prove he was filing a false report? Didn't he tell the cops you hit his car and he wanted money for the damage? What better proof than a COP for a witness?


Kinda like letting someone go who shot at you just because they missed......they still tried to shoot you.


Anyway, since the cops were first hand witnesses to attempted fraud, I think they should have been able to charge him. Just my opinion.


"To protect and serve." That means to protect future victims from this man's scams by arresting him......"so there officer....I demand you arrest him!". LOL
You aren't thinking through this correctly.

The cop has no way to prove that this guy was knowingly filing a false report.
The man could have actually thought the OP did hit his car.
He didn't say he saw the accident.
They can't arrest him for being wrong about who he thinks hit him.
I think it probably was a scam but proving it was is another story.
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Old 06-30-2017, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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You aren't thinking through this correctly.

The cop has no way to prove that this guy was knowingly filing a false report.
The man could have actually thought the OP did hit his car.
He didn't say he saw the accident.
They can't arrest him for being wrong about who he thinks hit him.
I think it probably was a scam but proving it was is another story.

You need to go back and read the original post again:


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.........he calls the cops. and the cop watches security camera. and i parked prior to him being there, so i couldnt of caused the damaged.

So yes, the guy did know the OP didn't hit his car......and he even repeated his lie to the police officer.....so the officer KNEW he was trying to scam the OP. Not only did the perp try to scam the OP, he tried to scam the cops too!
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Old 06-30-2017, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Surfside Beach, SC
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You aren't thinking through this correctly.

The cop has no way to prove that this guy was knowingly filing a false report.
The man could have actually thought the OP did hit his car.
He didn't say he saw the accident.
They can't arrest him for being wrong about who he thinks hit him.
I think it probably was a scam but proving it was is another story.
Oh, please! There's no way that this man thought the OP hit his car. He parked there AFTER that car was already there. This was proven by the security camera footage. I hope you never serve on a jury.
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Old 06-30-2017, 04:48 PM
 
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Oh, please! There's no way that this man thought the OP hit his car. He parked there AFTER that car was already there. This was proven by the security camera footage. I hope you never serve on a jury.


I hope you never are in charge of making arrest.

How would the cop prove what the man thought ??
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Old 06-30-2017, 04:51 PM
 
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You need to go back and read the original post again:



So yes, the guy did know the OP didn't hit his car......and he even repeated his lie to the police officer.....so the officer KNEW he was trying to scam the OP. Not only did the perp try to scam the OP, he tried to scam the cops too!
You need to rethink the original post.

How do you know that the man didn't go shop, return to his car, see the damage
and at that point make the faulty assumption that the car beside him did the damage??

I already said I think he was scamming, my point remains that the police cannot arrest him for
a hunch.
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Old 06-30-2017, 04:53 PM
 
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IMO, since the police were witnesses to the attempted scam, they should have been able to arrest him for attempted fraud.
/\ This. I'd have done a citizen's arrest and had the cop handcuff him, put him in the back of the police car and take him to the station, and I'd meet both the guy and the arresting officer there and signed the arrest report!
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Old 06-30-2017, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Surfside Beach, SC
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I hope you never are in charge of making arrest.

How would the cop prove what the man thought ??
It doesn't matter what the man thought. What matters is what he said. What matters is that he claimed the OP hit his car, which obviously did not happen because the security cameras show that the man arrived there after the OP's car was already parked.

What part of that do you not understand?
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Old 06-30-2017, 05:15 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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IMO, since the police were witnesses to the attempted scam, they should have been able to arrest him for attempted fraud.

Yeah I would think the same thing but guess they did not want to be bothered which is bs in my opinion , they should have done their job .
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Old 06-30-2017, 05:32 PM
 
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So yes, the guy did know the OP didn't hit his car......and he even repeated his lie to the police officer.....so the officer KNEW he was trying to scam the OP. Not only did the perp try to scam the OP, he tried to scam the cops too!
Exactly!

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Oh, please! There's no way that this man thought the OP hit his car. He parked there AFTER that car was already there. This was proven by the security camera footage. I hope you never serve on a jury.
Unfortunately, plenty of idiots serve on juries.
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Old 06-30-2017, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Surfside Beach, SC
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Exactly!



Unfortunately, plenty of idiots serve on juries.
I know! So scary, right?
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