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Old 07-19-2018, 06:42 AM
 
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I am astounded at how things have changed socially in terms of how people relate to one another and how much of a landmine ordinary interactions and small talk can be.

Examples:
  • Simple questions about "where do you work?" are considered intrusive and judgemental.
  • Disagreeing with someone is a microaggression. Or judgemental. (I believe the latter term is WAY overused.)
  • Organized activities in the workplace are discriminatory against people who don't wish to socialize.
  • And just about everyone we don't like is now toxic rather than just a jerk who is best avoided.
I mean, these are all really dramatic terms that make it sound like interactions are more threatening or insulting than they really are. Saying you are discriminated against because you are a vegan and the conference refreshments are not? Let's reserve terms like discrimination for people who truly are discriminated against -- like where their livelihood or health hangs in the balance.

And why does every interaction have to have some sort of dubious meaning behind it? It doesn't serve me to automatically view something as a "slight" against me if it could go either way.

I just don't understand how we got to the point of over-dramatizing things in relationships.

I'm really baffled by this.
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Old 07-19-2018, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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Examples:
  • Simple questions about "where do you work?" are considered intrusive and judgemental.
  • This is not a big of a problem as it seems. Most people still will reply to those questions if asked. However, the internet is where many people who have real trouble interacting with others in person can express themselves, and IMHO there is a disproportionate number of those folks advancing that idea.


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  • Disagreeing with someone is a microaggression.
  • This is just not true. A microaggression is an actual thing, and it's not just "disagreeing with someone." The fact remains that people ARE very judgmental, and the internet promotes that.

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  • Organized activities in the workplace are discriminatory against people who don't wish to socialize.
  • Another internet molehill made into a mountain.

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  • And just about everyone we don't like is now toxic rather than just a jerk who is best avoided.
Again, a "toxic" person is an actual thing, different from a jerk.

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I'm really baffled by this.
It sounds like you're baffled because you're generalizing things.
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Old 07-19-2018, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Central Virginia
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As always, BirdieBelle is the voice of common sense.
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Old 07-19-2018, 09:46 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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OP, my verdict is that you're spending too much time in the toxic environment of C-D, among all the judgmental people.

Ya think? I mean, think about it. You don't encounter these opinions out in real life, do you? Among your friends, relatives and co-workers? One guy puts up a thread about being uncomfortable responding to questions about what field he works in, or where he works, and instead of interpreting his topic as the product of a very young, very insecure mind, you're casting it as some kind of societal malaise.

A bit of realistic perspective is in order, methinks.
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Old 07-19-2018, 09:53 AM
 
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As always, BirdieBelle is the voice of common sense.
I couldn’t rep BirdieBelle again so yes the voice of common sense.
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Old 07-19-2018, 09:57 AM
 
Location: IN>Germany>ND>OH>TX>CA>Currently NoVa and a Vacation Lake House in PA
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It's bordering on ridiculous and is another symptom of political correctness and "every kid gets a trophy" run amok.
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Old 07-19-2018, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Redwood City, CA
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I just don't understand how we got to the point of over-dramatizing things in relationships.

I'm really baffled by this.

People have come to understand the power of a grievance. They want that power for themselves.
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Old 07-19-2018, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Henderson, NV
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It's bordering on ridiculous and is another symptom of political correctness and "every kid gets a trophy" run amok.
This is true. I do suspect a lot of this nonsense is on the Internet though. I don’t hear nearly as many stupid things in person but I also suspect that’s because nobody looking at me and seeing me would think their nonsense will fly. These people aren’t intimidating outside of the Internet, and don’t talk a big game except behind a keyboard, so maybe they are thinking some PC nonsense in their heads while talking to me but they properly judge I won’t care or change my behavior for their weak emotional state.
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Old 07-19-2018, 10:14 AM
 
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Ya think? I mean, think about it. You don't encounter these opinions out in real life, do you? Among your friends, relatives and co-workers? One guy puts up a thread about being uncomfortable responding to questions about what field he works in, or where he works, and instead of interpreting his topic as the product of a very young, very insecure mind, you're casting it as some kind of societal malaise.

A bit of realistic perspective is in order, methinks.
Honestly, I didn’t see the thread you referenced. However I have read articles in legitimate media ...I believe one was in the BBC online IIRC that said it is now taboo to ask one where one works for these reasons. I think I referenced these article in another thread on a similar topic.

In fact, while CD is a place where these kinds of discussions occur, most of my thinking on this comes from what I am reading and hearing in general media. I do have a couple of family members and social contacts who couch things in these terms but we have limited interaction.

Anyway I find these responses interesting and I’m happy to hear that people don’t think in such dramatic terms —perhaps I’m delusional! 😀
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Old 07-19-2018, 10:48 AM
 
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Honestly, I didn’t see the thread you referenced. However I have read articles in legitimate media ...I believe one was in the BBC online IIRC that said it is now taboo to ask one where one works for these reasons. I think I referenced these article in another thread on a similar topic.

In fact, while CD is a place where these kinds of discussions occur, most of my thinking on this comes from what I am reading and hearing in general media. I do have a couple of family members and social contacts who couch things in these terms but we have limited interaction.

Anyway I find these responses interesting and I’m happy to hear that people don’t think in such dramatic terms —perhaps I’m delusional! 😀
I did find this

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...w-life-meaning
And
https://interculturalmeanderings.wor...ion-they-have/

I’ve lived in America 40 years and i am used to being asked and it has elicited different reactions over the years on how the conversation went but I figured if they are going to judge my whole character based on what I do then I don’t want anything to do with them. While it doesn’t bother me I can see why there is an issue. Ask the question in Europe “”what do you do” and they are more likely to tell you the things they like to do outside of the work realm because they generally don’t define themselves by their job. In other words they work to live not live to work.

And finally this
BBC - Capital - Why you shouldn't ask people what they do
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