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Originally Posted by Kthnry
Wow, so much outrage here from men on behalf of us women. As I've mentioned on other threads, I'm a life-long swimmer, pushing 60, and I can't remember the last time I encountered a bathroom or locker room that didn't have individual stalls. I sometimes swim at one municipal pool that has a large group shower, and everyone showers in their suits, then changes in a stall in the locker room. Somehow I go through life seeing almost no naked people in public facilities.
All this obsession about possibly seeing a penis? Do you guys realize how creepy you sound? The fact that you keep harping on how men will sneak into women's locker rooms to flash their junk and leer at naked girls makes me think this is some kind of fantasy you're carrying around yourselves that you are projecting onto other men. Kind of like how fat, grubby homophobes always joke about how gays will hit on them in the shower. As if.
You know who I worry about? Trans men who have breasts who are forced to use a men's locker room. Breasts are an easy part of the transition, with hormones and/or implants. It's easy to hide what's in your pants. Breasts are another story. I'll bet this is where a lot of the violence against trans people takes place.
I agree with you, totally. I keep throwing out the name Christine Keeler, which they totally ignore, because it's not convenient. Then they berate me for saying that places without individual stalls could mandate bathing suits, like that is unheard of.
BTW - "women and girls sharing bathrooms and locker rooms with someone who has different genitalia" - doesn't mean that women and girls have to actually "see" male genitalia. There are such things as private stalls and changing areas. As I and other women have posted, I've never been in a multi-facility women's bathroom that didn't have separate private stalls or a locker room that didn't offer private or curtained changing areas.
BTW - "women and girls sharing bathrooms and locker rooms with someone who has different genitalia" - doesn't mean that women and girls have to actually "see" male genitalia. There are such things as private stalls and changing areas. As I and other women have posted, I've never been in a multi-facility women's bathroom that didn't have separate private stalls or a locker room that didn't offer private or curtained changing areas.
Locker rooms do not have separate changing stalls, although some new showers have a dry-off area with an extra curtain.
I find this whole argument that women don't change clothes in locker rooms and that they shower in their swimsuit delusional. These laws affect thousands of female locker rooms across the country. Are you telling me that you believe women and girls play sports at schools, universities and community centers, then wait until they get home to shower or change out of their sweaty underwear? Then why are schools still paying for female lockers and showers at all? I can promise you that a lot of men are changing out of their dirty, smelly clothes, I imagine women are as well and you're being dishonest.
Are you sure you aren't confusing transgender with transvestite? In either case, could you cite your source for that tidbit?
I'll try to dig it up for you.
Transgenders and transvestites are both considered gender identities according to the DOJ and Charlotte's wording. According to their rules, any "gender expression" or "gender identity" is to be treated as the person's actual gender.
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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Locker rooms do not have separate changing stalls, although some new showers have a dry-off area with an extra curtain.
Female locker rooms have bathrooms. The toilets are in stalls. Females who choose to, go to the bathroom stalls & change. It's been that way for decades. I told you this before but you & your buddy thought that it was clever to berate me. Now other females are telling you the same things & you continue to say that you know more than females about what goes on in female locker rooms & showers. If you're getting your information from Rush Limbaugh, guess what? Unless he stumbled into one while high as a kite, he's never been in one.
"There was a lot of turnover at this job, so every two weeks a fresh batch of employees seemed to come in. This meant that every two weeks new men would come into the bathroom, assume they’d accidentally entered the women’s room when they saw me there, and then glare at me when they figured it out. Some insisted that I was in the wrong place — until they realized what I was, and got really angry. It got so bad that I stopped going to the bathroom at work altogether, and I developed urinary tract infections. So then I stopped drinking water before and during work.
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"That doesn’t mean it’s not still an issue when I have to use a public restroom. The fear is still there — that someone will take offense, get angry and attack me, or that I’ll be made to leave a business, that I’ll be accused of sexual misconduct, arrested and sent to men’s jail.
"That’s the main thing I wish the supporters of these laws would realize: We are much more frightened of you than you are of us."
Female locker rooms have bathrooms. The toilets are in stalls. Females who choose to, go to the bathroom stalls & change. It's been that way for decades. I told you this before but you & your buddy thought that it was clever to berate me. Now other females are telling you the same thing & you continue to say that you know more than females about what goes on in female locker rooms & showers. If you're getting your information from Rush Limbaugh, guess what? Unless he stumbled into one while high as a kite, he's never been in one.
I design locker rooms. I'm telling you that the changing areas are in front of the lockers. Sports teams and gyms can consist of dozens of women and girls. These girls are not waiting turns to change in the toilet.
Female locker rooms have bathrooms. The toilets are in stalls. Females who choose to, go to the bathroom stalls & change. It's been that way for decades. I told you this before but you & your buddy thought that it was clever to berate me. Now other females are telling you the same thing & you continue to say that you know more than females about what goes on in female locker rooms & showers.
Lots of women's locker rooms have private curtained areas specifically for changing, in addition to the toilet stalls. I can't speak for men's locker rooms, as I've never been in one.
They also think we have pillow fights while wearing pink babydoll pajamas at our slumber parties. Sheesh.
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