High Speed commuter rail line planned between Scranton and Nyc by 2030 (Allentown: live, cost)

[jtab4994]

Originally Posted by Nexis4Jersey

What I find really sad and shameful is by 2025 Northern & Southern Africa will have constructed a unified Rail network over 80,000 miles long. With the Middle East , Asia , Europe constructing an addition 160,000 miles by 2030 and here we are in the US struggling to build and restore small rail corridors.

As some people in the Poconos worry about crime riding the rails into their towns, I'm sure many Africans worry about Boko Haram riding the rails into their villages. But more likely Boko Haram and groups like it would simply blow up the tracks to prevent people escaping. Good luck with that unified African rail network "by 2025" and I won't even ask who's paying for it!

We're struggling politically to find a reason to restore passenger rail service to parts of the U.S. because we have highways, cars, and cheap petroleum.

[DarkWolf]

Originally Posted by jtab4994

As some people in the Poconos worry about crime riding the rails into their towns, I'm sure many Africans worry about Boko Haram riding the rails into their villages. But more likely Boko Haram and groups like it would simply blow up the tracks to prevent people escaping. Good luck with that unified African rail network "by 2025" and I won't even ask who's paying for it!

We're struggling politically to find a reason to restore passenger rail service to parts of the U.S. because we have highways, cars, and cheap petroleum.

I did say Northern & Southern Africa. Boko-Haram is in a small section of Western Africa. Overall the unstable sections of Africa combined are the size of Texas , but Africa itself can fit 3 USA's within its borders. Oil is very cheap in parts of Africa aswell ,along with the Middle East and parts of Asia and South America.

But all these places have realized that eventually oil will run out and there not taking any chances with that. They also want to connect the various poorer regions with the emerging powerhouse regions. Rail is often cheaper then building a highway in a lot of these regions. Its used for Freight shipping between the towns and cities. In Cities Metros and Light Rail Networks are being built and are used heavily by the poor and middle class , even in the Middle East. People rather ride a Bus or train instead of crawling along at a snail pace on the motorway. Some of their highways are 20 lanes wide and still become snarled with traffic.

The Money is coming from the Oil Industrial revenues , private investors , China , various global power players and general Govt funding. Aside from Rail , they are building huge road and highway networks , upgrading port facilities and expanding Airports. The Drinking water and Sewage system is being brought up to Global standards. Its a general push to upgrade the Infrastructure in these regions... Similar investments are happening in Eastern Europe , Northern and Southern Asia. There are also plans for a South & Central America unified network.

I'm pretty sure I said Northern & Southern Africa will have a Unified Rail Network , I didn't say Central or Western Africa. So the Northern African System includes , Morocco , Algeria , and Tunisia with Tunnel to Spain somewhere down the road. The Southern African System includes , South Africa , Swaziland, Namibia , Lesotho , Botswana , Angola , Mozambique , Tanzania , Kenya and Zambia...

The Middle Eastern network includes , Israel , Palestine , Jordan , Southern Iraq , Kuwait , Egypt , Saudi Arabia , Bahrain , Qatar , United Arab Emirates ,and Oman. Its a Diesel and Electric Rail network for Freight and Passenger along with a few High Speed Rail lines and connecting Urban Rail systems in each city. Similar to the African system above.

I think this country is just lazy , we have the money for war , but not enough for Infrastructure...its embarrassing and shameful. Also Vaccination rates of 16 African Nations and 120 countries around the world have surpassed the US. The US ranks low in a lot of categories , and people make excuses as to why we can't invest in certain areas. Meanwhile the world is starting to pass us by , in less than 15 years a lot of these developing countries will most likely be just as , if not more developed then the US.

[jtab4994]

Originally Posted by Nexis4Jersey

Meanwhile the world is starting to pass us by , in less than 15 years a lot of these developing countries will most likely be just as , if not more developed then the US.

Good for them, but I still don't think even the shiniest African rail system will ever shame taxpayers in Pennsylvania and New Jersey into paying for a rail line to Scranton, any more than the "bullet trains" in Japan and France have.

[jimazee]

Originally Posted by Nexis4Jersey

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I think this country is just lazy , we have the money for war , but not enough for Infrastructure...its embarrassing and shameful. Also Vaccination rates of 16 African Nations and 120 countries around the world have surpassed the US. The US ranks low in a lot of categories , and people make excuses as to why we can't invest in certain areas. Meanwhile the world is starting to pass us by , in less than 15 years a lot of these developing countries will most likely be just as , if not more developed then the US.

Uhuh, this explains why so many people are leaving the USA for education, employment, and life.

[jtab4994]

Originally Posted by jimazee

Uhuh, this explains why so many people are leaving the USA for education, employment, and life.

It's amazing what some people value! By 2025 you'll (supposedly) be able to ride the rails "from Cairo to the Cape" through all sorts of exotic lands. Maybe you'll be able to get off the train and see a witch being burned or a homosexual being stoned. Africa. Please.

[ConfusingRotary]

Originally Posted by Nexis4Jersey

I think this country is just lazy , we have the money for war , but not enough for Infrastructure...its embarrassing and shameful. Also Vaccination rates of 16 African Nations and 120 countries around the world have surpassed the US. The US ranks low in a lot of categories , and people make excuses as to why we can't invest in certain areas. Meanwhile the world is starting to pass us by , in less than 15 years a lot of these developing countries will most likely be just as , if not more developed then the US.

I don't think it's laziness so much as war is where the money is. We go to war because our economy is based on it. Sad but true

[jtab4994]

Originally Posted by ConfusingRotary

I don't think it's laziness so much as war is where the money is. We go to war because our economy is based on it. Sad but true

Interesting. Do you think that's why there will never be a passenger train between Scranton and New York City?

[jetgraphics]

Originally Posted by Nexis4Jersey

I think this country is just lazy, we have the money for war , but not enough for Infrastructure.

Perhaps, perhaps not.
Consider that if one could enjoy 90% of the "average" standard of living by relying on public charity (socialism), would one wish to spend 44+ years of labor to achieve the missing 10%?
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AS to the issue of money, are you sure about that?

Pursuant to the Constitution, Congress has power to 'coin money' (stamp bullion) and 'borrow money.' It has no power to create money, nor give that power to someone else.
And a federal reserve note ("dollar bill") is an IOU (debt) not a dollar. It is issued under the authority to 'borrow money' which means unless Congress runs a deficit, it cannot authorize new "dollar bills."

Insane? Yes.
But it cannot be challenged, pursuant to clause 4, 14th amendment.
. . .

In that light, the convoluted process of public funded rail is but a consequence of the "emergency rules" we all have lived under since 1933.

A war is a good excuse to run up red ink, but infrastructure is a hard sell.

[ConfusingRotary]

Originally Posted by jtab4994

Interesting. Do you think that's why there will never be a passenger train between Scranton and New York City?

I think you should read the post in its context. ��

[jtab4994]

Originally Posted by ConfusingRotary

I think you should read the post in its context. ��

LOL you should read the thread title and try a little harder to stay on topic!