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Old 09-21-2009, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Quite vulgar, wouldn't you agree? Was that necessary?
Yes, she is vulgar, but you shouldn't take it personally.

Back to the topic..........
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Old 09-21-2009, 07:55 AM
 
Location: So. Dak.
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Moderator cut: We're ALL kind of having problems with this thread. Myself included and I apologize publicly for my misinterpretation and error. We're all friends so let's just get back on topic please.
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Old 09-21-2009, 08:26 AM
 
Location: OK
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Back to the topic..........
You think you are capable?
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Old 09-21-2009, 09:42 AM
 
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Well, all these additional cmments have really raised the level of usefulness of this post. NOT.

I am still at a loss as to why this was posted in the first place. Perhaps the OP can explain?
you don't think it's at all noteworthy or relevant that such a high percentage of students seemingly have next to zero knowledge of civics, history and geography?

i would have to disagree.

as to heatherdawn's befuddlement about a conservative think-tank conducting and publicizing such a survey, i had the same thoughts. here's my hypothesis:
conservative think-tanks, and conservatives in general [myself included], are generally big proponents of school choice. drawing attention to the currently abysmal state of public education can only strengthen their arguments for more school choice, magnet schools, and the like.

that said, the corollary of such a bias is that they have a vested interest in getting the worst possible outcome from a test such as this one.

here's a link to the test done in arizona:

http://www.goldwaterinstitute.org/file/3212/download/3212 (broken link)
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Old 09-21-2009, 09:59 AM
 
Location: OK
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you don't think it's at all noteworthy or relevant that such a high percentage of students seemingly have next to zero knowledge of civics, history and geography?
Absolutely. As somebody who was educated in Europe I have always found the level of education in this country lacking in a major way.

What I found disturbing is that it wasn't made clear in your post that this survey was taken just in Oklahoma and, if taken nation wide, the results would have been the same in every state.

In other words, your post was misleading and was negative towards Oklahoma specifically.
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Old 09-21-2009, 10:05 AM
 
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Absolutely. As somebody who was educated in Europe I have always found the level of education in this country lacking in a major way.

What I found disturbing is that it wasn't made clear in your post that this survey was taken just in Oklahoma and, if taken nation wide, the results would have been the same in every state.

In other words, your post was misleading and was negative towards Oklahoma specifically.
what are you talking about? did you miss this?

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let me elaborate. i do NOT believe Oklahomans - OK high school students in particular - are any less informed than students in other states. just the opposite, as a matter of fact.

that is, my guess is that high school students throughout the country would do equally poorly if they took this test, and that these results probably ARE more or less representative of high school students as a whole.
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Old 09-21-2009, 10:06 AM
 
Location: OK
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Yep, guess I did. Not easy wading through a lot of drivel and picking out the relevant points.
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Old 09-21-2009, 10:19 AM
 
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it was the very first post.
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Old 09-21-2009, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Pawnee Nation
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Enough already, lets quit the bickering and answer the question.........

Just who WAS the first president of the United States?
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Old 09-21-2009, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Enough already, lets quit the bickering and answer the question.........

Just who WAS the first president of the United States?
Dah...........Donald Trump?
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