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Old 05-31-2011, 03:33 PM
 
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So build a toll booth. And don't even think of driving outside of your precious city limits because you don't pay any wheel taxes in my SID or to the county outside the city.
If I had to drive there every day, I'd pay for wear and tear on your roads. It would only seem right.
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Old 05-31-2011, 06:19 PM
 
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If I had to drive there every day, I'd pay for wear and tear on your roads. It would only seem right.
Yeah, sure you would.
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Old 05-31-2011, 06:32 PM
 
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Yeah, sure you would.
I wouldn't want to, but we've all gotta do our fair share.
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Old 05-31-2011, 09:29 PM
 
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I wouldn't want to, but we've all gotta do our fair share.
Most of my driving in Omaha was on STATE roads. I paid taxes. I did my fair share.
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Old 06-01-2011, 08:50 AM
 
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Most of my driving in Omaha was on STATE roads. I paid taxes. I did my fair share.
I pay taxes in Omaha, too. I buy lunch a few days a week in Omaha, and shop for other stuff in Omaha. They get sales tax from me.

Put up a toll booth if you want my money and charge if fairly -- on an actual per use basis. Otherwise, to take money from someone that can't vote in the city and may/may not actually use the roads is just wrong. It's why the founding fathers fought the British--taxation without representation.
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Old 06-01-2011, 05:33 PM
 
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I pay taxes in Omaha, too. I buy lunch a few days a week in Omaha, and shop for other stuff in Omaha. They get sales tax from me.

Put up a toll booth if you want my money and charge if fairly -- on an actual per use basis. Otherwise, to take money from someone that can't vote in the city and may/may not actually use the roads is just wrong. It's why the founding fathers fought the British--taxation without representation.
That's sales tax, not roads tax. Quite different.

Also if you think that would be "taxation without representation" you really need to quit drinking whatever it is you are. You have representation with the state of Nebraska and THEY can act on your behalf, just as they did with Omaha's commuter tax. Sounds like representation to me! TRUE "taxation without representation" simply does not exist in this country. Ultimately your represented by the federal government and had Nebraskans government not stopped the commuter tax the crybabies in the suburbs would have taken it to the us supreme court. Again sounds like another level of representation to me . Your "British" example fails on the count that the American colonies had NO representation. They had no one to help them, no one to speak for them in the British government. Someone REALLY needs a history lesson here .
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Old 06-01-2011, 08:56 PM
 
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I'm glad I no longer pay any money to the state of Nebraska. I sure will enjoy driving around on Omaha's roads this weekend though.
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Old 06-02-2011, 06:46 AM
 
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That's sales tax, not roads tax. Quite different.

Also if you think that would be "taxation without representation" you really need to quit drinking whatever it is you are. You have representation with the state of Nebraska and THEY can act on your behalf, just as they did with Omaha's commuter tax. Sounds like representation to me! TRUE "taxation without representation" simply does not exist in this country. Ultimately your represented by the federal government and had Nebraskans government not stopped the commuter tax the crybabies in the suburbs would have taken it to the us supreme court. Again sounds like another level of representation to me . Your "British" example fails on the count that the American colonies had NO representation. They had no one to help them, no one to speak for them in the British government. Someone REALLY needs a history lesson here .
I've heard that silly excuse about how the state allows it so somehow I'm represented. It doesn't work. The Nebraska legislature doesn't impose the tax--Omaha does.

Again...what part of "I don't vote for mayor or city council but I get taxed by the city" do you not understand? It seems pretty simple to me. Omaha taxes me, but I don't vote for them. I also don't get to take advantage of a lot of Omaha services. I pay for my own trash pickup for one.

Honestly, it's short-sighted thinking like that that will make me glad to move out of the area. I really like Omaha for the most part, but this tax issue is just annoying.
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Old 06-02-2011, 08:18 AM
 
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I've heard that silly excuse about how the state allows it so somehow I'm represented. It doesn't work. The Nebraska legislature doesn't impose the tax--Omaha does.

Again...what part of "I don't vote for mayor or city council but I get taxed by the city" do you not understand? It seems pretty simple to me. Omaha taxes me, but I don't vote for them. I also don't get to take advantage of a lot of Omaha services. I pay for my own trash pickup for one.

Honestly, it's short-sighted thinking like that that will make me glad to move out of the area. I really like Omaha for the most part, but this tax issue is just annoying.
I haven't read all of your posts on this subject because I don't want to litter my mind with nonsense. But, I think most of your arguments have already been addressed in previous posts. All I want to point out is that you are motivated to move to a different state because a city in your state proposed a commuter tax that the state legislature did not allow to go into affect? And the tax was only $50 a year? Not that I will be sad to see you go, but for your own sake, I think you need to make your decisions with a little more logic and a little less emotion.
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Old 06-02-2011, 02:25 PM
 
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I haven't read all of your posts on this subject because I don't want to litter my mind with nonsense. But, I think most of your arguments have already been addressed in previous posts. All I want to point out is that you are motivated to move to a different state because a city in your state proposed a commuter tax that the state legislature did not allow to go into affect? And the tax was only $50 a year? Not that I will be sad to see you go, but for your own sake, I think you need to make your decisions with a little more logic and a little less emotion.
No...I am already planning on moving out of the Omaha area in the next 6 months to a year. One of the things that I won't miss about Omaha when I do move is the fact that they tax people that don't live in their city. I live outside the city, so I don't get some of the benefits of being in the city--but I do get taxed by them in the form of a wheel tax. Not the commuter tax--I pay a wheel tax. Perhaps if you'd have been bothered to actually read the whole thread you'd see that instead of spouting nonsense.

Having said that, there are a lot of great things about Omaha, and I will always proudly consider it my hometown.
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