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Old 04-04-2011, 10:54 PM
 
Location: Declezville, CA
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EST has morphed post-Werner into the Landmark Forum, and there's a center near there somewhere.
I was almost hoodwinked into attending once, but as soon as I learned of its roots I grabbed my 10-foot pole.
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Old 04-05-2011, 03:02 AM
 
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All of Orange County is not created equal. Sorry but you couldn't pay me to live north of SouthCoast plaza. Tustin, Santa Ana, Anaheim, etc. No thanks! South OC is where it's at. It's beautiful down here. I'm right by Cleveland national forest in the San Juan area. I couldn't imagine living anywhere else. I'd have to say the corridor between SD and South OC has some really cool areas. Northern OC is way too crowded and flat for my tastes. But maybe I haven't seen enough of Anaheim, Yorba Linda etc.
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Old 04-05-2011, 09:15 AM
 
Location: South Park, San Diego
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How can a place be heavenly if it has no soul?

Crowded, (1/5 the size of SD county, same population), vacuous people, a culture based on shopping and planned down to every inch of its scrub- no thanks. I drive as fast as I can to get through that scary place.
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Old 04-05-2011, 01:34 PM
 
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Yes, let's do! First off, we who live in the Coachella Valley do not consider ourselves part of the "Inland Empire". I live in the Coachella Valley - not the Inland Empire. Secondly, in the Coachella Valley, I can hop in my car and get on the freeway and rarely, if ever be stuck sitting in traffic for hours on end. The times we do have traffic are when there is a major traffic collision, or the Glamis traffic a couple of days before Thanksgiving weekend and a day after when everybody is leaving Glamis and returning to ORANGE COUNTY or LA. Thirdly, there are open spaces and land in the Coachella Valley. I do not have neighbors breathing down my neck. How about you?

curious where you are located?? We are desert rats as our second home..actually three now!! We have a condo in LaQuinta by the Resort Hotel..and last year bought a real house in Trilogy(La Quinta)...tho we still close up the house around June 15th and stay in OC til after Oct 1st to avoid the 110 degree desert summers...actually I feel we have best of both worlds...

agree with you that getting into OC or even LA from the Valley depend upon traffic and time of day

we time it so we avoid commuters..and short of a huge accident..we can make it door to door (110 Miles) in two hours...
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Old 04-05-2011, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Declezville, CA
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Northern OC is way too crowded and flat for my tastes. But maybe I haven't seen enough of Anaheim, Yorba Linda etc.
If you think Yorba Linda and Anaheim = flat, then yes Virginia, you haven't seen enough.
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Old 04-05-2011, 02:52 PM
 
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EST has morphed post-Werner into the Landmark Forum, and there's a center near there somewhere.
I was almost hoodwinked into attending once, but as soon as I learned of its roots I grabbed my 10-foot pole.
I said "no thank you" when someone I knew who went said they locked the doors and wouldn't let anyone go to the bathroom.

(Also said "no" to the paying good money to walk on hot coals.)
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Old 04-05-2011, 04:11 PM
 
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Default Awww...

It's nice to know you don't take your good fortune for granted!

I may not get the Newport or Laguna Shoreline in three minutes driving a BMW, but I can get there in my trusty Nissan Sentra in about 30!

We do this together...

YouTube - Nam Myoho Renge Kyo - Ancient Chants, Blissful Grooves

(anyone remember that one?)
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Old 04-05-2011, 04:20 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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How can a place be heavenly if it has no soul?
Kool-Aid!
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Old 04-05-2011, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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How can a place be heavenly if it has no soul?

Crowded, (1/5 the size of SD county, same population), vacuous people, a culture based on shopping and planned down to every inch of its scrub- no thanks. I drive as fast as I can to get through that scary place.
Nonsense.


"Soul" is one of those undefined pretend words like "spirit", analogous to the blank square in Scrabble - it's wild card to which you can give any meaning you want.

Planning, master planning is nice. Things look good and everything is organized. Plenty of attention is paid to maintaining open space. Plenty of neighborhood, community, and regional parks. Cheerful landscaping including flowers, on the sides of roads and in the medians. Modern safe traffic control devices, harmony in architecture and color, and logical zoning of retail, industrial, automotive services, residential etc. HOAs keep the riff raff from riff raffing (and the property values up).

No hodge podge non-zoned neighborhoods with a pizza parlor next door to a brake shop next door to a pre-school next door to a church next door to three residences next door to a car wash, etc.



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Old 04-06-2011, 12:27 AM
 
Location: Coachella Valley, California
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Yes .... incredibly cookie-cutter.
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