How far to drive from around Lake Forest to L.A around 5:00 pm'ish? (transplants, to live in)

[jackie100]

Which way has worse traffic?? 405N going towards L.A or the 5N?

[Cymbyz]

Dunno: 5N can be a bear at almost any hour; 405N is bad if you have to go through the JWA bottleneck.

[EscapeCalifornia]

Originally Posted by jackie100

Which way has worse traffic?? 405N going towards L.A or the 5N?

Probably the 5, especially once you get into LA county where its still 3 lanes wide from 1955.

[robbybee]

The 405 thru the South Bay Curve, near the 90 and the 10 junctions, is a real PITA as well.

Fact is, there is NO good way to get there from here at that time of day...

[BVitamin]

Not to scare you or anything but ... I've been in bumper to bumper traffic from just outside of O.C. all the way to Hollywood, nearly four hours of traffic. Guess what the cause was?

A stalled car smacked dab right in the middle of the freeway. Red to the head fuming, expletives ensued.

I think you should try another class on another day or at another time.

[jackie100]

Originally Posted by BVitamin

Not to scare you or anything but ... I've been in bumper to bumper traffic from just outside of O.C. all the way to Hollywood, nearly four hours of traffic. Guess what the cause was?

A stalled car smacked dab right in the middle of the freeway. Red to the head fuming, expletives ensued.

I think you should try another class on another day or at another time.

Ugh sounds like you are right

[Coldjensens]

Can you leave work early, take the train and do some work on your computer or by telephone while on the train?

[Coldjensens]

Originally Posted by BVitamin

Not to scare you or anything but ... I've been in bumper to bumper traffic from just outside of O.C. all the way to Hollywood, nearly four hours of traffic. Guess what the cause was?

A stalled car smacked dab right in the middle of the freeway. Red to the head fuming, expletives ensued.

I think you should try another class on another day or at another time.

I ahve had several of those type of instances. The second worst was a nice looking young girl in a bikini top and short shorts chaning the tire on a Jeep CJ. Every single guy thoguht that he had better to see if she needed "help" despite the fact that she just told the last 20 guys no. ("But surely she will wnat help when she sees ME!") The worst was when someone knocked a power pole down and the wires fell across the 405.

All kinds of wierd things happen. The most common is a two or three car accident. Even the tail end of a fender bender can cost you an hour. If there is an injury or death, it will be a long long wait. Given the number of cars, simple odds dictate that there will be two or more accidents during rush hour pretty much every week.

[BVitamin]

Originally Posted by Coldjensens

I ahve had several of those type of instances. The second worst was a nice looking young girl in a bikini top and short shorts chaning the tire on a Jeep CJ. Every single guy thoguht that he had better to see if she needed "help" despite the fact that she just told the last 20 guys no. ("But surely she will wnat help when she sees ME!") The worst was when someone knocked a power pole down and the wires fell across the 405.

All kinds of wierd things happen. The most common is a two or three car accident. Even the tail end of a fender bender can cost you an hour. If there is an injury or death, it will be a long long wait. Given the number of cars, simple odds dictate that there will be two or more accidents during rush hour pretty much every week.

Lots of crazy sh-t happens around L.A. I was driving down into L.A., bumper to bumper traffic and two cars in front of me, a car, instead of hitting the breaks, hit the gas instead and rear ended the car in front, the other person behind him did the same but worse -- the whole front was smashed in and this was all in the left fast lane. It's not like we're going 70-80 here, pay attention people.

Also, the ever so dangerous moron who does not know how to merge, and people who merge out of the carpool lane on a double yellow and don't signal.

And don't you love the cool race car drivers who need to zoom and zip in and out of the lanes to let you and everyone else on the road know that they're a race car driver of some sort. I don't know about you but I always look at them with great admiration, I tell myself, 'There goes the coolest person, ev-ver!'.

Another incident on the 405, a wheel popped off a pickup truck several cars in front of me -- went up really high and bounced of the windshield of a van in the next lane near me and it proceeded to bounce back; it all happened so fast I had no idea how I got out unscathed, several other cars where trying to avoid it too, it was f'ing bat sh-t crazy.

Yeah, the traffic is #1 deterrent for me ever moving back to SoCal.

[BirchBarlow]

Aren't you the one who always used to post about how afraid you were of driving on highways?