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Old 01-27-2013, 12:36 PM
 
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I agree. If someone is in their 20's and can truly afford kids, then fine. However for all the examples in this thread of people being settled in their 20's and ready for babies, there are plenty more who aren't ready. The fact that most babies born to parents under 30 are born out of wedlock should scare anyone.
What's the scariest, is that the fathers of these children won't step up to the plate, and take care of their own.
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Old 01-27-2013, 12:39 PM
 
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What's the scariest, is that the fathers of these children won't step up to the plate, and take care of their own.
I know, that bothers me tremendously and it will affect the kids in years to come. Kids need a dad. So many of these young dads are not taking responsibility, whether it's letting taxpayers support their offspring (while they often make more)and having no relationship with the kids. Very sad.
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Old 01-27-2013, 12:43 PM
 
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By then, you should have a solid relationship/marriage (so less chance of becoming a single parent), and a good career, to provide for the child, as to not suck tax money from hard working people.

For example:

A family headed by a single parent can cost the tax payer nearly £6 million.

£5million: The extraordinary sum it can cost the taxpayer to support a single mother of three on benefits | Mail Online

I've noticed all the wealthy couples I know don't have any children at all.

Why don't people make wiser choices?
Maybe "people" don't make wiser choices because they don't have to, they KNOW that the gov will take care of them if need be...charity breeds charity.....The wealthy couples you know who have no children might be wealthy in material possessions, but I'd rather be poor with a bunch of kids (yes, we've always supported ourselves) than "wealthy" without.
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Old 01-27-2013, 12:48 PM
 
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By then, you should have a solid relationship/marriage (so less chance of becoming a single parent), and a good career, to provide for the child, as to not suck tax money from hard working people.

For example:

A family headed by a single parent can cost the tax payer nearly £6 million.

£5million: The extraordinary sum it can cost the taxpayer to support a single mother of three on benefits | Mail Online

I've noticed all the wealthy couples I know don't have any children at all.

Why don't people make wiser choices?
Actually for a woman biologically it is best to start having children (at least the first pregnancy) before age 30.
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:02 PM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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I've noticed all the wealthy couples I know don't have any children at all.

Why don't people make wiser choices?
Aside from being a huge financial burden, children often negatively impact your lifestyle as well. People without children can work two jobs, or work a lot of overtime which increases their wealth. They can live in a low-income area while they save money without the worry of the quality of the schools. They do not have to pay for dance lessons, soccer equipment, and the seemingly endless MEDICAL bills that go along with raising a child in the 21st century (although, as a child, I don't think that I went to a doctor more than three times between birth and 12 years of age, but that was before doctors became the modern replacement for God).

There is no guarantee, of course that childfree couples will become wealthy, but there is a much greater chance of it.

20yrsinBranson
childfree/not wealthy
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:10 PM
 
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Aside from being a huge financial burden, children often negatively impact your lifestyle as well. People without children can work two jobs, or work a lot of overtime which increases their wealth. They can live in a low-income area while they save money without the worry of the quality of the schools. They do not have to pay for dance lessons, soccer equipment, and the seemingly endless MEDICAL bills that go along with raising a child in the 21st century (although, as a child, I don't think that I went to a doctor more than three times between birth and 12 years of age, but that was before doctors became the modern replacement for God).

There is no guarantee, of course that childfree couples will become wealthy, but there is a much greater chance of it.

20yrsinBranson
childfree/not wealthy
Well, I am going to agree with you that children are expensive and probably had a negative impact on my finances!

But children can also impact your lifestyle in a positive way. Travel teams and sports can bring many close friendships amongst the children and parents; there are good times to be had when spending the week-ends away from home. Most all of my best friends I met through my son! Watching your child grow and mature and succeed. The love I feel for my son - I can't put a price on all that.
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:40 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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It has nothing to do with age, but rather being financially prepared to take on the additional cost and responsibility.

Plenty of people have the financial resources to start having kids early, and as a recent new grandparent. We were 26 and 25 when we had our first, but with two good jobs, fully paid medical, owned a house, one new car and one late model used so we were prepared.
Wait until 40 to have kids, and you will be in your 60s and ready to retire by the time they are off on their own.
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Denver 'burbs
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Aside from being a huge financial burden, children often negatively impact your lifestyle as well. People without children can work two jobs, or work a lot of overtime which increases their wealth. They can live in a low-income area while they save money without the worry of the quality of the schools. They do not have to pay for dance lessons, soccer equipment, and the seemingly endless MEDICAL bills that go along with raising a child in the 21st century (although, as a child, I don't think that I went to a doctor more than three times between birth and 12 years of age, but that was before doctors became the modern replacement for God).

There is no guarantee, of course that childfree couples will become wealthy, but there is a much greater chance of it.

20yrsinBranson
childfree/not wealthy
Not everyone sees this as a positive impact to their lifestyle.
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Old 01-27-2013, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Why do people under 30ish have kids?
Because they want to do. Deal with it.

It's also better to start a family before you're 30 but most people do so anyway.

The article the OP linked us is data for the United Kingdom, not the US. So, I don't see how it's relevant to us.
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Old 01-27-2013, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I agree. If someone is in their 20's and can truly afford kids, then fine. However for all the examples in this thread of people being settled in their 20's and ready for babies, there are plenty more who aren't ready. The fact that most babies born to parents under 30 are born out of wedlock should scare anyone.
The only reasonable extrapolation to be made from this whole thread is not that people should wait until they are older to have kids, but that they should wait until they are married to have kids.
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