What does privatizing liquore stores actually mean? (Pittsburgh, Penn: loan, house)

[Avalon08]

In googling this topic, I found a LOT of articles that indicate Pennsylvanians are particularly tired of the beer case law. Except for, surprisingly , this beer distributor, who hilariously calls the product he sells by the case one of the most abused drugs in the country. (Link to complete article below....the comments are pretty funny.)

Beer distributor Roger Ackerman said convenience is the only argument he hears in favor of grocery cafes selling beer. "It’s not convenient to get, and it should not be convenient to get," said Ackerman, owner of Mechanicsburg Beverage Distributor.

"It’s one of the most abused drugs in the country," he said. "It’s not an item that should be as convenient as bread and milk pickup. You can’t walk into a store and buy [the narcotic] Percocet off the shelf, and there’s a reason for that."

There are 12,000 places people can buy beer in Pennsylvania, including 1,300 beer distributors, said Ackerman, who worries that teenagers will get easier access to beer in grocery and convenience stores.

Oh, please. He's worried about teenagers.

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/ind...e_over_wh.html

[Craziaskowboi]

Originally Posted by Avalon08

Oh, please. He's worried about teenagers.

"Teenagers" - My Chemical Romance

[greg42]

Unfortunately the beer is a separate problem. It's unlikely the folks in Harrisburg now will take the call to privatize state stores and turn it into overall reform of alcohol sales.

Complain to your local bar. Bars are the ones who make sure six-packs can't be bought anywhere else.

[greg42]

More specifically, it is the PA Tavern Association who makes sure that bars are the only place to buy a six-pack. In order to make this change, you have to hit this association and its member bars enough that they'll be forced to change their position. The Tavern Association has better lobbying than I guess grocery and other retailers, and certainly than the beer distributors.

So if you know a bar belongs to this association, don't go there and tell them why you are not going there.

[Ohiogirl81]

Originally Posted by BettyTheHun

I don't recall ever, and I'm not exaggerating, meeting someone who wants to keep things how they are. All this talk that Pennsylvanians don't want reform is bs.

No? I suggest you read this thread; it's quite entertaining (and not in a good way):

Why do Pennsylvania citizens put up with their alcohol laws!

Originally Posted by Avalon08

I hope they understand that it's not just that we want "private" liquor stores, we want the same convenience that we can find in NJ and DE.

When you consider the wine kiosk debacle -- no, I don't think they understand.

Originally Posted by Gnutella

The only reason the PLCB survives is because of the store employees, the busybody Bible-thumpers, and groups like Mothers Against Drunk Driving. They're the five percent of the people who make 95 percent of the noise on this issue. They're the squeaky wheel that gets the grease.

You forgot about the people who don't drink beer or wine or liquor, or any combination thereof, the people who don't really mind the idiotic inconvenience of driving three different places to pick up a six pack, a case, and wine and liquor, of people who are resigned to the system because "that's the way it is." Please do reference the thread linked above. And have a wonderful day.

[Avalon08]

Originally Posted by Ohiogirl81

No? I suggest you read this thread; it's quite entertaining (and not in a good way):

Why do Pennsylvania citizens put up with their alcohol laws!



When you consider the wine kiosk debacle -- no, I don't think they understand.



You forgot about the people who don't drink beer or wine or liquor, or any combination thereof, the people who don't really mind the idiotic inconvenience of driving three different places to pick up a six pack, a case, and wine and liquor, of people who are resigned to the system because "that's the way it is." Please do reference the thread linked above. And have a wonderful day.

That thread was pretty entertaining (and not in a good way). I would not say that the people who didn't want reform had any good reason for feeling that way, other than "that's the way it is and we're too lazy to try to change it". Seriously, how WOULD we change it? We're all supposed to start a mass campaign to write to our congressmen? How bout a big Facebook page? You know, these days, that's probably the last thing on people's minds to revolt about. Why can't we do Propositions like the other states do? (OK, I admit I'm not up on my civics.)

[pman]

why would teens need beer when drugs are available in just about every school?

[Scott2187]

I was just in California this past week, and walked into a Costco. There was an entire aisle end dedicated to liquor gift sets. I ended up picking out a Glenlivet 12-year that came with 2 snifter glasses, for $25. There were many, many more that I would have like to get if it was only legal to mail alcohol.

I wish PA were more like this example...

[quiet life]

Originally Posted by Scott2187

I was just in California this past week, and walked into a Costco. There was an entire aisle end dedicated to liquor gift sets. I ended up picking out a Glenlivet 12-year that came with 2 snifter glasses, for $25. There were many, many more that I would have like to get if it was only legal to mail alcohol.

I wish PA were more like this example...

I've seen the same thing in a NJ BJ's. I work in NJ so that affords me the convenience of having choices of spirits. I stock up to take home to PA. I usually don't patron these state store establishments in PA because of these stupid liquor laws. They'll never get a dime of my hard earned cash.

[bluemonday]

I'm worried that a bunch of foreigners are going to buy the liquor stores, bring all their families over from their respective country and employ only their family members, and squeeze the native born American's out of working in that industry. This is just as bad as outsourcing, which I am frankly sick of! Keep PA liquor stores in American hands, even if it is state run, that is my opinion.