11-18-2011, 07:18 AM
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Sandusky needs to be put into protective custody for his sake, for the sake of his victims who are probably afraid he will try to intimidate them in person, for the sake of finding how far this nest of inequity has spread, for the sake of any parent who has a child and might put that child into a similar situation--learn from these mistakes!
And of course any serial pedophile is a classic narcicisst and psychotic personality--
there is no real empathy there and great skill at creating two different personas
He is like the Russian dolls with one inside the other---
Sandusky has multiple personable personas that he shows to the world at large and even his family but the people who only see the real inner Sandusky fall into two categories--his victims, especially the ones with him the longest, and other pedophiles...
And if you think Jerry Sandusky does not know other pedophiles--think again...
Like to like or "cada oveja con su pareja" as the Mexican proverb goes--"every sheep with its pair"
I guarantee you there are photos, emails---some type of paper trail that will show Sandusky is a true serial child abuser--
unless the investigation went on so long that he managed to shred all that physical evidence---
my understanding is that most offenders like this want trophies of their victims--photos, physical items--that they can connect to if the prey is not available...
I know there are photos of him with these boys taken at Second Mile events and used for advertising the program--
Imagine how that made him feel if it was used in newspaper story or advertising outreach for donations and he KNEW that two of the boys in the photo were his "boys", his victims....
that is pretty powerful drug...
11-20-2011, 12:15 AM
Location: SW Florida
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I don't. I think he is psychopathic. I am not a psychology major, but he seems to fit the bill. For instance he was caught at PSU by a couple different people but still had the nerve to go back to the Latch building everyday and keep his office there as nothing ever happened. Before he was caught he was giving a speech about protecting children with his foundation! Then his interview on Monday night. I really think he is a sick creepy man, and usually they don't feel what they did is wrong or feel guilt or remorse even if the whole world despises them.
I think that is going to be his defense. Hence why his attorney let him do that interview on Monday.
I thought I was gonna throw up the way he answered Costas' question about whether he was s*xually attracted to young boys. What normal man would not immediately and vehemently deny that? He is sick, and I don't mean that in a "needs help" kind of way. But I can see his M.O. -- he tries to make it sound like it's just silly "jock" stuff, and anyone who would read anything more into it must be the crazy one.
11-20-2011, 09:35 AM
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that defense won't fly--
he KNEW what he was going was wrong--(which is why he kept it hidded) vs someone who is criminally insane and does not know right fro wrong--
I know that Sandusky's interview with Costas seems to ring all the bells in the world and announce his pedophile status--
but I also remember the case in Australia when a baby was stolen out of her family's tent when they were camping--the mother swore a dingo (wild dog) did it....but there was lack of evidence to support her story...the mother did herself no good with the media because she refused to cry in public to show her loss...
the media crucified her and she was eventually put on trial for killing her baby--convicted and later released 4 yrs later when an important piece of her daughter's clothing was found outside a dingo lair
Trial by media - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Lindy Chamberlain-Creighton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The point is that the media's "image" of her as someone capable of killing her own infant daughter was significant and the fact that the Crown government suppresssed evidence that would have moderated that point of view in the eyes of the jury...
There are plenty of child molesters who vehemently deny their guilt at every opportunity--
so while I was not impressed at Sandusky's responses--
WE did not see his facial expressions along with the verbal response--
I find that facial/body gestures usually offer more insight into the accuracy of the words being used...
I have seen other video interviews in past with Sandusky where he is asked questions that in hindsight have some borderline connection to child abuse--and he will fail to maintain eye-contact, look away from the interviewer--
I think those are much more telling about what he is actually thinking at that time--
and would be more likely to suggest guilty knowledge/behavior...
I think it was very telling that while Sandusky was immediately available to make that interview call with Costas he was not at the studio to make a personal interview--
I think his lawyer was smart in having him do that off-camera...
in person I think it would have been more revealing of his guilty nature...
11-21-2011, 10:42 PM
Location: Due North of Potemkin City Limits
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He's gonna clip himself. Mark my words, I tell ya...Mark my words.
11-22-2011, 07:23 AM
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I don't want that to happen--and probably anyone who was a victim directly or their families want that--
Sandusky needs to be crucified in court and see himself exposed for the rapist he is--
that would be the best punishment he could face
and one way for healing to start
the prosecution needs to get some psychological insight into what a pedophile would be doing in situation like Sandusky is facing and frankly with a new judge on the case I would hope they would seek an adjustment of the first bail hearing--
get him into protective custody
11-22-2011, 09:06 AM
Location: NE PA
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In yet another story embarrassing to Pennsylvania, a Sandusky victim forced to leave school because he was bullied over being a person to bring this scandal public. Wonder where these kids learned that behavior from? Some pi$$-poor parenting, in my opinion...
"...the alleged victim who, according to reports, was blamed for the firing of longtime Penn State football coach Joe Paterno..."
Parents who elevate football to the status of religion, and teach kids that sports come before academics and other priorities, plus teaching disrespect of people who are different and have differing opinions breeds this kind of behavior.
Alleged Sandusky Victim Bullied, Leaves School - WNEP (http://www.wnep.com/wnep-alleged-sandusky-victim-bullied-leaves-school-20111121,0,4362200.story - broken link)
11-22-2011, 10:29 AM
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Apparently Paterno came out with a media blip about no hazing but think that is less than convincing--
the school needs to set severe penalty--but frankly (and I am very sorry for that brave young man) it was pretty unrealistic to think he could make those accusations and NOT get backlash for doing so...
I don't condone it--but anyone who knows football in PA (or any other football frenzied state) should be able to anticipate being ostracized for something of this magnitude--
I mean watch "All the Right Moves" and see what happens to Tom Cruise's character for telling the coach HE was the one who screwed up in that last game...and that was just a podunk high school...
partly this is also poor education about the nature of pedophelia abuse--some people think the kids are borderline "homo" anyway so they might have encouraged that abuse...
again -- not condoning that attitude--but I have read comments and know that some stupid perceptions are out there
11-22-2011, 11:21 AM
Location: NE PA
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...and not to mention where this high school is located is a fairly out-of-the-way redneck locale...I'm sure tolerance is not something that is preached by the majority of parents around there.
11-22-2011, 02:23 PM
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As time marches forward, more and more is coming out as I personally suspected it would. It goes much further than Sanduskey, Paterno, McCreary, the school president, etc. I suspect it will end up in the Pennsylvania Supreme court and involve the state police and the PA judicial system, yes, a state cover-up. I'm sorry to say that's how bad this may become. Football is a cult in PA for many and throughout the US, men are known to get depressed at the end of football season, it's a fact, not my suspicion. Football is huge at Penn State and it does color the entire state and the university when something of this magnitude is occuring over a period of 15 years. Football brings in millions of dollars every year to many big universities across the country and money can be very powerful in ignoring injustices. I think it's a chance for us all to take pause, and think about what kind of society are we becoming when so many look the other way when something so horrific is occurring. We don't want to get involved anymore, fearful that we will be harmed in some way, it's called narcicism, looking out for #1, screw everybody else, nothing else matters. Well, this is what happens and don't think it's only at Penn State, it's all over and has been for decades. I'm so sorry that so many boys had their lives ruined by being raped, molested, and betrayed. To answer your question, I personally AM embarassed by this situation because there are many sitting around hoping they don't get caught up in this scandal to save their own asses, because they knew what was going on and did nothing. Board of trustees is going to get nailed and it won't stop there. Just wait and see. When it's all said and done, it will be a state scandal, far beyond Penn State University.
11-22-2011, 04:11 PM
Location: Earth Wanderer, longing for the stars.
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In yet another story embarrassing to Pennsylvania, a Sandusky victim forced to leave school because he was bullied over being a person to bring this scandal public. Wonder where these kids learned that behavior from? Some pi$$-poor parenting, in my opinion...
"...the alleged victim who, according to reports, was blamed for the firing of longtime Penn State football coach Joe Paterno..."
Parents who elevate football to the status of religion, and teach kids that sports come before academics and other priorities, plus teaching disrespect of people who are different and have differing opinions breeds this kind of behavior.
Alleged Sandusky Victim Bullied, Leaves School - WNEP (http://www.wnep.com/wnep-alleged-sandusky-victim-bullied-leaves-school-20111121,0,4362200.story - broken link)
This is, to me, not just a matter of football fanatics. This is how important it is to get the money that football brings into that area of the state. This kid was bullied for reporting a crime against him. The school obviously has misplaced priorities and so does the community that supports that school. I am totally disgusted that this brave student was forced out of his school for doing the right thing. What is wrong with our society?
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Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)