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It's simply too long. I'm not a stranger to the counter offer process but I typcially get them via phone call and proceed based on my judgement of the candidate not a couple page letter
I can agree with this
As I stated previously... Your critique about the length is fair. But the email worked and I would've said all of this via phone or in 6+ back and forth emails. What would you have cut? You're ignoring my original question. Im legitimately curious on what you felt was unnecessary. Also what industry do you work in?
As I stated previously... Your critique about the length is fair. But the email worked and I would've said all of this via phone or in 6+ back and forth emails. What would you have cut? You're ignoring my original question. Im legitimately curious on what you felt was unnecessary. Also what industry do you work in?
It worked for you so that's all that matters. I wouldn't have done it via email instead a phone call but the email for me is simply too long. Like I said my opinion doesn't matter here
I hear complaints all the time about people who feel they're not paid enough, but did not negotiate when they were initially brought on. In many industries, yearly raises (even for individuals fully meeting or exceeding their goals) are paltry (averaging well below 2% - so truly the wage you come in at in a new company sets your entire earning trajectory.
Good for you! I am not much for negotiating. They first person I met with sort of negotiated my salary for me. I believe it was God who sent an angel to me.
I am glad you were able to negotiate a better salary.
It does remind me that studies have shown that men negotiate better at starting salaries than women (as a rule, not absolute). The solution to some (such as Ellen Pao the dreadful ex-CEO of Reddit) is to not allow salary negotiation. Which once again, if <group a> is not as good as <group b> in something, then bring <group a> down to the level of <group b> (lowest common denominator). Let's find the worst attributes of everybody and all act like that.
Alternatively, we can encourage women to be more assertive in their salary negotiations. Here is a hint, hiring managers rarely give their best offer to start. I have never accepted a company's opening offer (for professional jobs).
You miss 100% of the shots you dont take, so for those forewarning others not to use this appproach... Maybe it needs to be a different approach, maybe a shorter letter, maybe verbal... The point is ther is always room for negotiation...
And now a special message for the Women of city-data: it is a documented fact that women tend to negotiate their salaries much more rarely than men... They think their work will get noticed... Well it doesn't! It has also been documented that this lack of ngotiating is responsible for at least a portion of the pay differential btw men and women, so go out there and negotiate!!!
Well it doesn't! It has also been documented that this lack of ngotiating is responsible for at least a portion of the pay differential btw men and women, so go out there and negotiate!!!
Not sure where you get your data but it's a documented fact that women with the same amount of experience as their male counterpoint actually earn more. The female pay gap is a myth
Think about it, if it was cheaper to hire females then why aren't companies employeed by 90%+ women???
Will you get bonuses and whatnot on top of the salary? What you ended up getting seems a bit low for having the experience.
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