Is The Philly Dialect Changing? (Philadelphia, York: metropolitan area, cities, population)

[southbound_295]

Originally Posted by gwillyfromphilly

The Midland dialect isn't necessarily part of the Southern dialect. It's very well its own dialect region and there are many factors that clearly distinguish it from the Southern accents.

Think what you want. I posted a video where NC natives are speaking thisclose to the milder version of the Philadelphia accent. This story was put out by the AP & it clearly mentions the southern characteristics. Researchers track evolution of Philly's odd accent - US News and World Report

[soug]

Originally Posted by monicapies

Regardless, the English of most Hollywood movies, except Hollywood movies set in colonial Virginia or in Brooklyn, sounds like the English of educated people, not the English of uneducated people.

Nobody in a Hollywood movie is from Hollywood.

[gwillyfromphilly]

Originally Posted by southbound_295

Think what you want. I posted a video where NC natives are speaking thisclose to the milder version of the Philadelphia accent. This story was put out by the AP & it clearly mentions the southern characteristics. Researchers track evolution of Philly's odd accent - US News and World Report

I'm sure when I go down to North Carolina they will easily hear that my Philly accent has so much similarities with the old school NC accent. As we know the NC dialect is so similar to the Philadelphia dialect. They will probably think I'm from the South.

[southbound_295]

Originally Posted by gwillyfromphilly

I'm sure when I go down to North Carolina they will easily hear that my Philly accent has so much similarities with the old school NC accent. As we know the NC dialect is so similar to the Philadelphia dialect. They will probably think I'm from the South.

Did you watch & listen to the video? Based on your comments, I think not. I did not say that the old versions of the accents sound alike & apparently you did not read the AP article. I told you to think what you want & don't intend to continue this with you.

[soug]

Didn't watch the video, but there are definitely some aspects of Philly pronunciations that outsiders seem to think sound Southern. For example, the drag on the "a" in the word class.

[southbound_295]

Originally Posted by soug

Didn't watch the video, but there are definitely some aspects of Philly pronunciations that outsiders seem to think sound Southern. For example, the drag on the "a" in the word class.

Watch the video & listen carefully. Several vowels are pretty much the same. One older woman has a distinctive accent. For some reason there's a transplant. The rest are natives with very mild accents. They are the ones to pay attention to.

[PA2UK]

Originally Posted by wardwhirlboromarlpool1955

It seems "wooder" is a relic of the British rule in this area. I say this because the British today say "woolking" instead of "walking". Also, the way many white Philadelphians pronounce the letter O sounds very British. And the way many Philadelphians would pronounce "down and out" sounds very Australian. And "peanuts" sounds like "paenuts" in both the British and Philadelphia accents. We know the Australian accent was based on the Cockney accent of the UK, so perhaps we're hearing Cockney influence in this area too?

Um, I don't know what British accent you're basing this off of but I've lived in Manchester, England for 7 years and never heard anyone pronounce "walking" or "peanuts" this way. Although I'm originally from central PA, my parents are from the Philly area and do not pronounce "walking" or "peanuts" the same way my British husband does. Also, my mom is continually amused by how my husband pronounces the letter 'U', as "ew". So "tuna" becomes "tewa". Her Philly accent is of no resemblance to this. Meanwhile, my husband jokingly mocks her for saying "toooona".

[mancat100]

I watched the video and heard no similarity at all. Also I've known people from NC. They had southern accents and sounded nothing like Philly people.

[gwillyfromphilly]

Originally Posted by mancat100

I watched the video and heard no similarity at all. Also I've known people from NC. They had southern accents and sounded nothing like Philly people.

I think Southbound_95 was focused more on how some Philadelphians stretch the letter O in words. Personally that's not just a Philly thing or a Southern thing but we do stretch the "O" to an extreme. Overall the Philly dialect doesn't really have much in common with the Southern accent and especially North Carolina of all places. Our dialect region is distinct and has many characteristics that separate it from the South. I like to look at it as "Northern but not New York".

[HappyRider]

Is it just me that hears "halp" when they mean help?