Go Birds!!! (bill, fun, people)

[Hermit12]

Originally Posted by Redddog

Looks like a certain team on Lake Erie just hired Duce Staley as their RB/Assistant Head Coach.

Please keep it to Eagles talk. Thanks.

[Redddog]

Originally Posted by Hermit12

Please keep it to Eagles talk. Thanks.

Haha. Duce Staley IS Eagles talk.

[AshbyQuin]

We stole Dallas' former OC. Think of the info he has on them.

[MarketStEl]

Originally Posted by Hermit12

The Eagles and Lions both have 4 NFL Championships, the Chiefs only have 3. Poor Kansas City.

The Chiefs weren't even in tne NFL until the completion of the merger in 1970.

In its 11 years in the AFL, the Chiefs won three league championships, one of which came when they were playing in Dallas as the Texans in the pre-Super Bowl era. Add that one to the three Super Bowl wins and you get four league championships as well.

Those first four Supes (where the leagues tied, with two wins each, one of them by the Chiefs) pretty much demolished the argument of NFL partisans that the older league was superior to the upstart. So I'd say that 1962 AFL championship should also count.

KC (Dallas), then, would have four as well.

[Hermit12]

Originally Posted by MarketStEl

The Chiefs weren't even in tne NFL until the completion of the merger in 1970.

In its 11 years in the AFL, the Chiefs won three league championships, one of which came when they were playing in Dallas as the Texans in the pre-Super Bowl era. Add that one to the three Super Bowl wins and you get four league championships as well.

Those first four Supes (where the leagues tied, with two wins each, one of them by the Chiefs) pretty much demolished the argument of NFL partisans that the older league was superior to the upstart. So I'd say that 1962 AFL championship should also count.

KC (Dallas), then, would have four as well.

Nah ... when people talk championships, only NFL championships count.

AFL championships are in their own category.

That's why nobody is running around saying "The two-time champion Buffalo Bills !"

[MarketStEl]

Originally Posted by MarketStEl

The Chiefs weren't even in tne NFL until the completion of the merger in 1970.

In its 11 years in the AFL, the Chiefs won three league championships, one of which came when they were playing in Dallas as the Texans in the pre-Super Bowl era. Add that one to the three Super Bowl wins and you get four league championships as well.

Those first four Supes (where the leagues tied, with two wins each, one of them by the Chiefs) pretty much demolished the argument of NFL partisans that the older league was superior to the upstart. So I'd say that 1962 AFL championship should also count.

KC (Dallas), then, would have four as well.

Following myself up to tie this to the Eagles by two degrees of separation.

Lamar Hunt founded both the AFL and the Dallas Texans in 1959 after the NFL passed on his request for an expansion team in Dallas.

The NFL must have recognized the threat the new league would (come to) pose, for it gave Dallas an expansion team in 1960.

That, in turn, led to Hunt deciding to move his team out of Dallas after the 1962 AFL season, for he figured that the Metroplex wasn't big enough to support two pro football teams. He had considered Atlanta and Miami before then-Kansas City Mayor H. Roe Bartle promised him that the city would double the number of season tickets his team sold and expand Municipal Stadium's seating to accommodate the team.

And thus one of the AFL's charter members is responsible for the existence of the Eagles' most hated rival.

(Something else I learned from the Wiklpedia article on the Chiefs' history: Even though it uses Native American imagery, the team's name comes from the nickname Mayor Bartle got as "chief" of the Tribe of Mic-O-Say, the Boy Scouts Heart of America Council's highest honorary society [equivalent to the national Order of the Arrow, which the council adopted in the 1970s after disbanding the tribe].)

[Hermit12]

Yeah, I watched all four episodes of Full Color Football on YouTube. Great documentary.

Highly recommended.

[MarketStEl]

Originally Posted by Hermit12

Yeah, I watched all four episodes of Full Color Football on YouTube. Great documentary.

Highly recommended.

Think I'm going to take you up on that recommendation.

Love the title, especially how it ties two roughly simultaneous developments together: the fouding and growth of the American Football League and the introduction and spread of color television.

And those two developments are also yoked together: The AFL gained national exposure by having its games broadcast on the network that introduced color television, RCA-owned NBC (the "Peacock Network" because of the logo it designed to promote its broadcasts "in living color").

[MarketStEl]

Originally Posted by Hermit12

Nah ... when people talk championships, only NFL championships count.

AFL championships are in their own category.

That's why nobody is running around saying "The two-time champion Buffalo Bills !"

Well, KC will even the score with the Eagles and Lions by beating the 49ers again two Sundays hence, so at that point, the taunt will become moot.

[Redddog]

Originally Posted by Hermit12

Nah ... when people talk championships, only NFL championships count.

AFL championships are in their own category.

That's why nobody is running around saying "The two-time champion Buffalo Bills !"

Don't get me started.