Snowbirds Arrival? (Peoria, Flagstaff, Prescott: renting, retirement, office)

[MN-Born-n-Raised]

A question on topic. If someone is born and raised in PHX and decides to leave the 100+ degree summers, are they considered "snowbirds" to Phoenicians ? If so, do the small subset of (mostly transplants) local hates when they come back to their own state and decide to use the restaurants, roads and use the parks? It's philosophical question.

[JGMotorsport64]

Originally Posted by MN-Born-n-Raised

A question on topic. If someone is born and raised in PHX and decides to leave the 100+ degree summers, are they considered "snowbirds" to Phoenicians ? If so, do the small subset of (mostly transplants) local hates when they come back to their own state and decide to use the restaurants, roads and use the parks? It's philosophical question.

I believe Valley Native used the term Sunbirds and I think you're taking yourself too seriously

[MN-Born-n-Raised]

Originally Posted by JGMotorsport64

I believe Valley Native used the term Sunbirds and I think you're taking yourself too seriously

It seems that Sunbird is an accurate phrase coined by others. In another sand state, FL categorizes people as snowbirds, sunbirds, and "stayers". With a flip of a licence plate and a tax statement, I can become a "Sunbird". If I want to roast for 4 months and live hear full time, I'd be a stayer. I find the nomenclature interesting as well as the associated stereotype.

https://www.bebr.ufl.edu/sites/defau...er%20Migr).pdf

[JGMotorsport64]

Originally Posted by MN-Born-n-Raised

It seems that Sunbird is an accurate phrase coined by others. In another sand state, FL categorizes people as snowbirds, sunbirds, and "stayers". With a flip of a licence plate and a tax statement, I can become a "Sunbird". If I want to roast for 4 months and live hear full time, I'd be a stayer. I find the nomenclature interesting as well as the associated stereotype.

https://www.bebr.ufl.edu/sites/defau...er%20Migr).pdf

IDK if stereotype is the word I'd associate w/ this study, but it does confirm common sense. Not sure if I like the term stayer, it implies they're staying at their own detriment. The weather isn't why I live here. I actually like the Summer, less people, I'm pretty durable and like to hike so less hikers are nice, water sports, and day trips. The winter is actually one of my least favorite seasons, pollution inversion layer, traffic, tourists and that thing you don't like people complaining about, and everything gets more expensive.

[MN-Born-n-Raised]

Originally Posted by JGMotorsport64

IDK if stereotype is the word I'd associate w/ this study, but it does confirm common sense. Not sure if I like the term stayer, it implies they're staying at their own detriment. The weather isn't why I live here. I actually like the Summer, less people, I'm pretty durable and like to hike so less hikers are nice, water sports, and day trips. The winter is actually one of my least favorite seasons, pollution inversion layer, traffic, tourists and that thing you don't like people complaining about, and everything gets more expensive.

I also know people who claim they LOVE the cold, snowy winters. There are always trade-offs. Even if you lived in Minot North Dakota (YUCK) there are positives. They are in the severe minority but whatever floats their boat.

I am NOT saying you do this, but people rationalize their decisions when they don't have options. So given a choice of living of what most think is an ideal weather location people will. It is human nature for people to point to the positives which is rational as to why it isn't all that bad.

[JGMotorsport64]

Originally Posted by MN-Born-n-Raised

I also know people who claim they LOVE the cold, snowy winters. There are always trade-offs. Even if you lived in Minot North Dakota (YUCK) there are positives. They are in the severe minority but whatever floats their boat.

I am NOT saying you do this, but people rationalize their decisions when they don't have options. So given a choice of living of what most think is an ideal weather location people will. It is human nature for people to point to the positives which is rational as to why it isn't all that bad.

I travel a lot so my options do exist, but given the income disparity (in FL at least, I imagine its pretty similar here given the low wages that most people live on) your post makes sense in that regard. But for some people summer can be nice, especially if you grew up here (I did a lot of school so summer means less reponsibility, even though its not true it still feels that way). For the reasons mentioned above, and especially for those of us who have cabins and whatnot. Plus when I'm in Denver you should see my desert body shiver when everybody else is wearing short sleeves.

[Colt AZ]

Originally Posted by MN-Born-n-Raised

It seems that Sunbird is an accurate phrase coined by others. In another sand state, FL categorizes people as snowbirds, sunbirds, and "stayers". With a flip of a licence plate and a tax statement, I can become a "Sunbird". If I want to roast for 4 months and live hear full time, I'd be a stayer. I find the nomenclature interesting as well as the associated stereotype.

https://www.bebr.ufl.edu/sites/defau...er%20Migr).pdf

Roast, man, ROAST! Commit and become a full-year, full-blown Arizonan! No more back & forth snowbirding! C'mon, MN, get it done!

[key2success]

Cant anyone tell me how do the snowbirds come to AZ and stay up for 6 months all while having a job and other responsibilities?

Are most of them retired?

[JGMotorsport64]

Originally Posted by key2success

Cant anyone tell me how do the snowbirds come to AZ and stay up for 6 months all while having a job and other responsibilities?

Are most of them retired?

Yes. Snowbirds are usually of the salt variety if you catch my drift.

Some (a few I suppose) might work remotely.

[Wally Sconce]

Originally Posted by key2success

Cant anyone tell me how do the snowbirds come to AZ and stay up for 6 months all while having a job and other responsibilities?

Are most of them retired?

I'm 50 next week, not retired neither is my wife. We go back and forth during the winter.