Coyotes Moving From Glendale: Advanced talks with Phoenix or ASU (Mesa: bankrupt, college)

[AlohaAZ]

Arizona Coyotes exploring Coliseum as temporary home


Coyotes looking to play at the Coliseum temporarily

[JGMotorsport64]

Originally Posted by AlohaAZ

Arizona Coyotes exploring Coliseum as temporary home


Coyotes looking to play at the Coliseum temporarily

[observer53]

Loved the old Roadrunners, and the location would be fine, but playing in VMC would cost a lot of money up front for renovation. The icemaking equipment is no longer there, for one thing.

[MN-Born-n-Raised]

Originally Posted by AlohaAZ

Their days have been numbered since 2009 and they're still here. If the NHL really wanted to move them, they would have been long gone. They aren't going anywhere soon. A move downtown or to the east side will cement that.

So long as they find another Sugar Daddy that is willing to subsidize them, they will be here. In a flexing match where AZ says pony-up more of your own $$'s, they will be hightailing out of here.

So yes. A downtown or East side Sugar Daddy (the tax payers of course) will "cement it" for another round of howling.

[AlohaAZ]

Originally Posted by MN-Born-n-Raised

So long as they find another Sugar Daddy that is willing to subsidize them, they will be here. In a flexing match where AZ says pony-up more of your own $$'s, they will be hightailing out of here.

So yes. A downtown or East side Sugar Daddy (the tax payers of course) will "cement it" for another round of howling.

You act as though subsidizing sports is only something that happens in AZ. Good luck finding very many 100 percent, privately-financed major sports arena across the country. Where are they going to go? Las Vegas and Quebec City are lined up for expansion. Seattle is still a pipe dream at this point. Everyone mentions KC, but it's always just been "talk."

[JGMotorsport64]

Originally Posted by AlohaAZ

You act as though subsidizing sports is only something that happens in AZ. Good luck finding very many privately-financed major sports arena across the country. Where are they going to go? Las Vegas and Quebec City are lined up for expansion. Seattle is still a pipe dream at this point. Everyone mentions KC, but it's always just been "talk."

And since it is going to happen regardless of what witty posts one might make, it would seem pragmatic to have a joint stadium. Subsidize 1 place for multiple teams=savings.

Still want the Suns/Mercury/Coyotes. It would allow me to even go to a Coyotes game (something I miss dearly), and it would split management costs among 3 franchises of varying success instead of building an expensive stadium in the farmlands on the hopes and dreams of growth and 200 concerts a year

[MN-Born-n-Raised]

Originally Posted by JGMotorsport64

And since it is going to happen regardless of what witty posts one might make, it would seem pragmatic to have a joint stadium. Subsidize 1 place for multiple teams=savings.

Still want the Suns/Mercury/Coyotes. It would allow me to even go to a Coyotes game (something I miss dearly), and it would split management costs among 3 franchises of varying success instead of building an expensive stadium in the farmlands on the hopes and dreams of growth and 200 concerts a year

While your approach makes a ton of sense, don't count on it. We are in an era where everyone wants their own stadium or they will take their marbles and leave.

[MN-Born-n-Raised]

Originally Posted by AlohaAZ

You act as though subsidizing sports is only something that happens in AZ. Good luck finding very many 100 percent, privately-financed major sports arena across the country. Where are they going to go? Las Vegas and Quebec City are lined up for expansion. Seattle is still a pipe dream at this point. Everyone mentions KC, but it's always just been "talk."

I wasn't thinking that.

My point was Glendale got screwed. It was a bad business decision mostly because they assumed hockey would be a bigger draw. Hence my comment. They need another fiscally inept Sugar Daddy that has the same (highly probable) unrealistic dream. Bad business decisions happen more often when you are spending someone else's money a.k.a. the taxpayer. It's why the franchise owners partners with dimwit financial types; politicians who more-often-than not have never run a business. So all around the country, these p_ss-poor business decisions are made. It's why the ONLY way it financially works is to find someone else to spend other peoples money.

[Bates419]

The Glendale situation turned real bad when something major happened around 08, you might remember the recession when plenty of people lost their jobs, their homes, and development basically stalled. believe I have seen you write about getting a great deal on a house around that time. Westgate is starting to turn into what was planned for 10 years ago but alas it's too little too late for the Coyotes in Glendale. It's nowhere near as simple as not enough fans.

Originally Posted by MN-Born-n-Raised

I wasn't thinking that.

My point was Glendale got screwed. It was a bad business decision mostly because they assumed hockey would be a bigger draw. Hence my comment. They need another fiscally inept Sugar Daddy that has the same (highly probable) unrealistic dream. Bad business decisions happen more often when you are spending someone else's money a.k.a. the taxpayer. It's why the franchise owners partners with dimwit financial types; politicians who more-often-than not have never run a business. So all around the country, these p_ss-poor business decisions are made. It's why the ONLY way it financially works is to find someone else to spend other peoples money.

[JGMotorsport64]

Originally Posted by Bates419

The Glendale situation turned real bad when something major happened around 08, you might remember the recession when plenty of people lost their jobs, their homes, and development basically stalled. believe I have seen you write about getting a great deal on a house around that time. Westgate is starting to turn into what was planned for 10 years ago but alas it's too little too late for the Coyotes in Glendale. It's nowhere near as simple as not enough fans.

Or the isolation from 2/3 of the city. 1.5hrs driving into the sun in gridlock to watch a team lose at Hockey doesn't help.