Diamondbacks looking to leave Chase Field citing lack of funds for Stadium Improvement due from Maricopa County (Miami: 2013, neighborhoods)

[Valley Native]

Originally Posted by Colt AZ

As an example, VN... I'm guessing it's extremely difficult for Wisconsin newbies to totally embrace the Cardinals when they have so much deeply ingrained love for their (Go, Pack, Go!) Packers. Etc. Et al. They choose to live here, but are unable to get totally excited about Arizona sports. Yet. If ever. It would be like being traitorous to a life they've always known.

I think of them as traitors, and it goes beyond sports. Usually these types were so anxious to leave Wisconsin or wherever else because they could no longer stand the winters, so they moved to Phoenix for the sunshine ... which is a ridiculous reason to uproot, leave one's job, and even one's family. So they claim to love the weather here in the fall/winter/spring, and claim to be able to tolerate the summers, but they often gripe about everything else: the traffic, the drivers, the schools, the culture, and our sports teams to name a few.

They long for their utopia where they can have weather like Phoenix's but still be back home where they originated from. So they live here and are happy when the sun shines, but are miserable otherwise. You'll find them in the sports bars rooting for their Packers or Steelers, but try striking up a conversation about Arizona sports teams, and they'll have a clueless expression.

[AZSunDevil83]

And the saga continues....

Judge: Diamondbacks must solve stadium dispute with Maricopa County

Looks like both sides claiming a victory but hoping we get some sort of decision by year's end. I hope arbitration becomes public...sounds like County is trying to hide some things. Anyways, here's to a quick resolution.

[madison999]

Originally Posted by Valley Native

I think of them as traitors, and it goes beyond sports. Usually these types were so anxious to leave Wisconsin or wherever else because they could no longer stand the winters, so they moved to Phoenix for the sunshine ... which is a ridiculous reason to uproot, leave one's job, and even one's family. So they claim to love the weather here in the fall/winter/spring, and claim to be able to tolerate the summers, but they often gripe about everything else: the traffic, the drivers, the schools, the culture, and our sports teams to name a few.

They long for their utopia where they can have weather like Phoenix's but still be back home where they originated from. So they live here and are happy when the sun shines, but are miserable otherwise. You'll find them in the sports bars rooting for their Packers or Steelers, but try striking up a conversation about Arizona sports teams, and they'll have a clueless expression.

lol hilarious post. Think of us however you want, we don't care. I've never seen a level of fair weather fans like cards fans. The people are so anxious to have a team they forget they don't actually like the sport. I became a die hard pack fan in the mid 80's. Do you have any idea how bad we sucked back then!?

[JGMotorsport64]

Originally Posted by madison999

lol hilarious post. Think of us however you want, we don't care. I've never seen a level of fair weather fans like cards fans. The people are so anxious to have a team they forget they don't actually like the sport. I became a die hard pack fan in the mid 80's. Do you have any idea how bad we sucked back then!?

Blah blah Wisconsin. Let's keep this thread on track so it doesn't get closed.

[FirebirdCamaro1220]

Originally Posted by Valley Native

I think of them as traitors, and it goes beyond sports. Usually these types were so anxious to leave Wisconsin or wherever else because they could no longer stand the winters, so they moved to Phoenix for the sunshine ... which is a ridiculous reason to uproot, leave one's job, and even one's family. So they claim to love the weather here in the fall/winter/spring, and claim to be able to tolerate the summers, but they often gripe about everything else: the traffic, the drivers, the schools, the culture, and our sports teams to name a few.

They long for their utopia where they can have weather like Phoenix's but still be back home where they originated from. So they live here and are happy when the sun shines, but are miserable otherwise. You'll find them in the sports bars rooting for their Packers or Steelers, but try striking up a conversation about Arizona sports teams, and they'll have a clueless expression.

Maybe you don't care about the weather, but to some such as myself, good weather is a VERY high priority

[TheGrandK-Man]

Originally Posted by hawkbiz

I like Chase Field personally. BUT, my perspective is going to baseball games at Shea Stadium in Queens, NY and that stadium was used for 44 years! Arenas and Stadiums have much shorter shelf lives nowadays.

The issue is modern expectations. What are fans looking for in the game-going experience: White glove service of fillet mignon and chardonnay to their seats at the ballgame? Marble tile and granite counter tops in the john? Massaging seatbacks in the stands?


My expectations are a reasonably roomy seat with a good view of the action, with a hotdog in one hand and drink in the other. No cup holders? No problem! Stand the drink beneath my seat, or between my legs like we did before cars grew center consoles.

In the restrooms? Everything manual. I can flush the john myself, and pull towels out of a dispenser. Plus, cold hard concrete flooring offers great grip compared to tilethhh.

I'm at the ballgame.

[JGMotorsport64]

Originally Posted by TheGrandK-Man

The issue is modern expectations. What are fans looking for in the game-going experience: White glove service of fillet mignon and chardonnay to their seats at the ballgame? Marble tile and granite counter tops in the john? Massaging seatbacks in the stands?


My expectations are a reasonably roomy seat with a good view of the action, with a hotdog in one hand and drink in the other. No cup holders? No problem! Stand the drink beneath my seat, or between my legs like we did before cars grew center consoles.

In the restrooms? Everything manual. I can flush the john myself, and pull towels out of a dispenser. Plus, cold hard concrete flooring offers great grip compared to tilethhh.

I'm at the ballgame.

How many stadiums really have those things though? And Chase field has some really nice amenities already.

[TheGrandK-Man]

Originally Posted by JGMotorsport64

How many stadiums really have those things though? And Chase field has some really nice amenities already.

OK, I was being facetious about some of that, like the massaging seatbacks. But seriously, have you been inside Yankee Stadium II? I haven't, but I've seen photos of some of the amenities.

[BIG CATS]

Originally Posted by madison999

lol hilarious post. Think of us however you want, we don't care. I've never seen a level of fair weather fans like cards fans. The people are so anxious to have a team they forget they don't actually like the sport. I became a die hard pack fan in the mid 80's. Do you have any idea how bad we sucked back then!?

Using your own words, "we don't care".

[madison999]

What does chase not have?

Other than butts in the seats...