Covid virus in phoenix (festivals, young, rural)

[LBTRS]

Originally Posted by BrianandSarah

Can anyone point me in the right direction as to any current restrictions in the Phoenix area? ie- masks, restaurants etc..

TIA!

https://www.azdhs.gov/index.php

https://www.maricopa.gov/5460/Coronavirus-Disease-2019

[MN-Born-n-Raised]

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Big picture, if I was at the helm, I would’ve mandated the masks MUCH earlier. I was beating that drumbeat long and hard all along. I predict masks are a HUGE impact.

I will say this. There are a lot of business that absolutely love Covid!! Things like ATVs, RVs, campers, exercise equipment, anything related to cocooning like home theater or furniture, e-commerce, networking, etc etc. All on the backs of travel, restaurants, oil, etc

[Burning Madolf]

Originally Posted by MN-Born-n-Raised

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Big picture, if I was at the helm, I would’ve mandated the masks MUCH earlier. I was beating that drumbeat long and hard all along. I predict masks are a HUGE impact.

I will say this. There are a lot of business that absolutely love Covid!! Things like ATVs, RVs, campers, exercise equipment, anything related to cocooning like home theater or furniture, e-commerce, networking, etc etc. All on the backs of travel, restaurants, oil, etc

Yeah, but how long can a family, city, state, country withstand unemployment rates (those not employed, not the filing for unemployment figures) we are currently experiencing? You and I have never seen anything like this is our lifetimes and history doesn't show many positive examples.
But at least Maricopa county gave me a break on my property taxes..... oh, wait .....

[MN-Born-n-Raised]

Originally Posted by Burning Madolf

Yeah, but how long can a family, city, state, country withstand unemployment rates (those not employed, not the filing for unemployment figures) we are currently experiencing? You and I have never seen anything like this is our lifetimes and history doesn't show many positive examples.
But at least Maricopa county gave me a break on my property taxes..... oh, wait .....

Unfortunately, I suspect we are about to find out! Here is one concerning stat (32 percent of paid their house payment short). https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/08/32-p...-payments.html And about 10% of mortgage holders didn't make a payment last month https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/22/succe...rus/index.html

There are many other alarms going off. But assuming the government continues to pile on the national debt, most of the halves will be fine. So the halve-nots are going to take the brunt of the hit. So for many, it's going to get ugly! I have no idea what $26T in national debt even means anymore. Remember, the debt was $4T in 1992 when Ross Perot was raising the red flags.

I bet in hindsight, masks plus some common sense social distancing would have been enough to keep the infection rated below 1.0. But we all had to learn the hard way. I can see a scenario where the government bails everyone out to a certain level and we don't dip too deep into a recession. Time will tell. I assume that's what Wall Street is mostly banking on.

So it is going to feel like a boondoggle for some. A recession-like situation for others. The most battered industries and the vulnerable it may soon feel like an depression. So far, I've been in the boondoggle camp because I cater to the halves. For now, a lot of people don't feel a thing other than restrictions on their freedom which has shifted the entire economy.

[MN-Born-n-Raised]

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I still think the Sergion General did the country a big disservice. Either he is a dope or a puppet. He was playing with peoples lives. Certainly my 87 year old MIL isn't technical enough to see how incredibly idiotic his statement was. I linked multiple research papers showing that he was lying. Others on the board believed him

[Burning Madolf]

Originally Posted by MN-Born-n-Raised

Unfortunately, I suspect we are about to find out! Here is one concerning stat (32 percent of paid their house payment short). https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/08/32-p...-payments.html And about 10% of mortgage holders didn't make a payment last month https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/22/succe...rus/index.html

There are many other alarms going off. But assuming the government continues to pile on the national debt, most of the halves will be fine. So the halve-nots are going to take the brunt of the hit. So for many, it's going to get ugly! I have no idea what $26T in national debt even means anymore. Remember, the debt was $4T in 1992 when Ross Perot was raising the red flags.

I bet in hindsight, masks plus some common sense social distancing would have been enough to keep the infection rated below 1.0. But we all had to learn the hard way. I can see a scenario where the government bails everyone out to a certain level and we don't dip too deep into a recession. Time will tell. I assume that's what Wall Street is mostly banking on.

So it is going to feel like a boondoggle for some. A recession-like situation for others. The most battered industries and the vulnerable it may soon feel like an depression. So far, I've been in the boondoggle camp because I cater to the halves. For now, a lot of people don't feel a thing other than restrictions on their freedom which has shifted the entire economy.

All good points.
I still don't see how cities in AZ and the state continue to make payrolls and payments when the tax revenues are surely drying up. Somethings gotta give.
Waiting for a vaccine or whatever other 'solution' there might be is not going to cut it.
There's way to much money going out and not enough coming in.
I guess we are in wait and see holding pattern.

[wase4711]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...ve-updates-us/

"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention revised its guidance for coronavirus testing this week. It now says that many people who have been exposed to the virus through close contact with someone who later tested positive “do not necessarily need a test” if they are not experiencing symptoms."

[DetroitN8V]

Originally Posted by wase4711

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...ve-updates-us/

"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention revised its guidance for coronavirus testing this week. It now says that many people who have been exposed to the virus through close contact with someone who later tested positive “do not necessarily need a test” if they are not experiencing symptoms."

Ah yes, "testing is making us look bad" has been shoved into policy. This should make no one happy.

[waltcolorado]

This video was posted in this thread a while back


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo


The image below is a snapshot from the linked video (somewhere around 15 minutes.. that could be off a little)



In that video, a person becomes infectious about 2.5 days after exposure. In the image above, that person once infectious will not experience any symptoms for about another 2.5 days and during this time when they dont know they are infected, actually are the most infectious they will be.

Unless the medical video (linked above) is inaccurate, you have to think the CDC new guidelines to not test people exposed politically motivated... which I find just pitiful.

[MN-Born-n-Raised]

Originally Posted by waltcolorado

Unless the medical video (linked above) is inaccurate, you have to think the CDC new guidelines to not test people exposed politically motivated... which I find just pitiful.

Are you saying politics trump good public policy? Say it isn't so! In summary, the ends justify the means. If a few more dead people are all that it takes to win an election (yes, both parties might sell their sole to various degrees), so be it!