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Old 10-19-2020, 03:39 PM
 
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Flake like his fellow Mormon Romney, is a RINO, as was McCain. None of them were ever true conservatives. They went along to get along. Sinema may be voting with Republicans, but the rules of the long march require patience. If, God forbid, the senate goes democrat majority, Sinema is going to take a hard left. She's just waiting for the right time. I don't trust her.
I don't think she will. She seems to be smart, intelligent and speaks for herself. During the SOTU she was one of the few that would stand up and clap when she wanted. The 2020 democrats are all about solidarity and I know some in the establishment don't like her much, but so far I respect her.

 
Old 10-19-2020, 03:51 PM
 
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Nevada is the ideal happy medium.
Not anymore, Nevada is more liberal than AZ. All of their Representatives are Democrat except for one, and both Senators are Democrat. The Las Vegas area and some of Reno is mostly democrat, while the rural areas are republican.
People moving from CA to Nevada is the same reason AZ is changing. We'll see if this election changes any of that up there.
 
Old 10-19-2020, 04:54 PM
 
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I don't think she will. She seems to be smart, intelligent and speaks for herself. During the SOTU she was one of the few that would stand up and clap when she wanted. The 2020 democrats are all about solidarity and I know some in the establishment don't like her much, but so far I respect her.
She has a radical past and I have a hard time getting past that. Then there is her personal life which is far from conventional and she wants very much for people to believe her lifestyle is conventional.
 
Old 10-19-2020, 05:25 PM
 
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She has a radical past and I have a hard time getting past that. Then there is her personal life which is far from conventional and she wants very much for people to believe her lifestyle is conventional.
What "lifestyle"? Are you referring to her sexual orientation? When did she say that? I think you made that up.
 
Old 10-19-2020, 08:15 PM
 
Location: East Central Phoenix
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White collar transplants who tend to be younger, educated, highly skilled, and high income earners are more likely to be fiscally conservative or moderate, and won't support leftists who want to impose higher taxes & mandate stricter regulations on business. I'm afraid the blue wave across the Phoenix area is for the wrong reasons: too many lower income people who are reliant on government programs. Phoenix also has a fast growing Hispanic population which accounts for a large percentage of the city's population, and they tend to vote Democrat.
 
Old 10-19-2020, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Houston, Texas
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White collar transplants who tend to be younger, educated, highly skilled, and high income earners are more likely to be fiscally conservative or moderate, and won't support leftists who want to impose higher taxes & mandate stricter regulations on business. I'm afraid the blue wave across the Phoenix area is for the wrong reasons: too many lower income people who are reliant on government programs. Phoenix also has a fast growing Hispanic population which accounts for a large percentage of the city's population, and they tend to vote Democrat.
Define "wrong reasons."

Last time I checked being lower income and on government programs doesn't preclude one from voting.
 
Old 10-19-2020, 09:11 PM
 
Location: East Central Phoenix
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Define "wrong reasons."

Last time I checked being lower income and on government programs doesn't preclude one from voting.
I already gave my definition of "wrong reasons". The Phoenix area's population is still growing at a pretty fast rate ... however, a large share of this growth is coming from the ones who are either unemployed or working low level jobs with tendencies to be unambitious, and are dependent on government handouts. Of course they have the right to vote, but they often choose the candidates who call for more taxation & more regulations. This is what's causing our "blue wave", and I don't really see that as a good sign.
 
Old 10-19-2020, 11:02 PM
 
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White collar transplants who tend to be younger, educated, highly skilled, and high income earners are more likely to be fiscally conservative or moderate, and won't support leftists who want to impose higher taxes & mandate stricter regulations on business. I'm afraid the blue wave across the Phoenix area is for the wrong reasons: too many lower income people who are reliant on government programs. Phoenix also has a fast growing Hispanic population which accounts for a large percentage of the city's population, and they tend to vote Democrat.
That may have been true in years past, but it's the opposite now. Education is the second biggest identifier, after race, for voting habits. There is a political realignment to Democrats in suburban areas of the educated. This drove the massive House win for Democrats in 2018 and will continue.

Conversely, former strong union blue-collar areas are trending more Republican in the realignment.

As Phoenix and AZ attract more educated professionals it will become more Democratic.
 
Old 10-20-2020, 03:34 AM
 
Location: Victory Mansions, Airstrip One
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From the article linked in the OP...

“Cities in states like Arizona and Texas are attracting young people, highly-educated people, and people of color — all groups that the national Republican Party has walked away from the last four years,” said the Oklahoma City mayor, David F. Holt, a Republican. “This losing demographic bet against big cities and their residents is putting Sun Belt states in play.”
 
Old 10-20-2020, 04:51 PM
 
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Democratic voter all the way. Ivy League educated. We live in a more affluent neighborhood and according to my neighbors' yard signs, Biden has an edge where we live.
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