As a long time member, and one who moved to Phoenix and left (my thoughts).. (insurance, schools)

[algia]

GREAT POST, thank you.........

Originally Posted by SpeedyAZ

There are generally 3 types of people that move to Phoenix.

1) People that move here with a positive attitude and genuinely want to make their home in Phoenix.

2) People that come here to visit, fall in love with the desert scenery, and decide to move here permanently.

3) People that are fed up with cold winters, high costs of living, lack of jobs, and feel that Phoenix with be a magical oasis in the desert.

Group 1 usually toughs it out, realizes that Phoenix does have its' share of problems but decides the pros outweigh the cons. They are the ones who are most likely to stay living here.

Group 2 usually split into two subcategories, 1 that realizes Phoenix is definitely not for them and the other that embraces everything it has to offer and wouldn't want to live anywhere else. 50% of group 2 will move to a different city (or go back to where they are from) within 5 years. The other 50% will stay here, make a home, and enjoy their lives.

Group 3 almost always move within a few years of living here. They complain about the heat, the illegals, the sprawl, and the job market and decide they should have never moved. Group 3 seems to be the one's that complain the most and not embrace anything that Phoenix offers.

I feel that this forum IS a great resource to each category of people but I feel many don't educate themselves on where they are moving and are setting themselves up for failure.

[bgrn198]

Landing the Job - Phoenix Business Journal:

http://phoenix.bizjournals.com/phoen...22/story2.html

[Grannysroost]

[quote=NytoPhx;13441258]This is supposed to be an open forum, where people can express their views whether negative or positive. I came to Phoenix with an open mind. Most other websites, such as Yahoo travel, have at least an equal amount of negative reviews on Phoenix, but as soon as somebody says something negative here they get attacked. I never once put down the people. NYC isn't perfect either, but there's a reason it is the most powerful city in the world, it's because people are open-minded and don't always find such a need to conform. That scenery and the housing are just a microcosm of the people in Phoenix, and the narrow-mindedness of the people themselves. The fact that I went to a top college with a degree is certainly too difficult a concept to grasp for most of you.[/quote]

Note the bolded...you have your thread, you voiced your opinion, now you are complaining because people responded negatively to your opinion...so what is your point positive/negative? You did not like Phoenix, went to NYC and are happy, so be it.

Bolded #2...what does this have to do with it, except you state your opinion after leaving and insult the regulars that do live here? If you wish, I will delete all the posts responding to you as off topic and close this, thus letting you speak alone versus what you just said.

[bgrn198]

[quote=Grannysroost;13450532]

Originally Posted by NytoPhx

This is supposed to be an open forum, where people can express their views whether negative or positive. I came to Phoenix with an open mind. Most other websites, such as Yahoo travel, have at least an equal amount of negative reviews on Phoenix, but as soon as somebody says something negative here they get attacked. I never once put down the people. NYC isn't perfect either, but there's a reason it is the most powerful city in the world, it's because people are open-minded and don't always find such a need to conform. That scenery and the housing are just a microcosm of the people in Phoenix, and the narrow-mindedness of the people themselves. The fact that I went to a top college with a degree is certainly too difficult a concept to grasp for most of you.[/quote]

Note the bolded...you have your thread, you voiced your opinion, now you are complaining because people responded negatively to your opinion...so what is your point positive/negative? You did not like Phoenix, went to NYC and are happy, so be it.

Bolded #2...what does this have to do with it, except you state your opinion after leaving and insult the regulars that do live here? If you wish, I will delete all the posts responding to you as off topic and close this, thus letting you speak alone versus what you just said.

I would close the thread and let them complain about it to themselves

[AliveandWell]

I mean my goodness! Doesn't the OP have anything positive to say about their experience? I guess not. No wonder he/she seems miserable. I will say regarding heat although it can be tough at times, as it has been stated you don't need to shovel it. And why compare NYC to Phoenix? They are 2 different cities and one of them is really expensive and tough for middle class wage earners to live there.

[belgirl]

At the end of the day, every big city has its issues along with some advantages. Phoenix isn't for everyone, just like New York isn't for everyone. I mean I love visiting New York, but living there? Not for me. Too cold, too many obnoxious people who rush rush, rush, cost of living is too high, too much crime and the list could go on and on. And yet other people love living there and would never live anywhere else. That's what makes the world go round.

I did have to laugh though about the OP's comment about the heat. Good grief--toughen up. That's why we have air conditioning. LOL.. I would take dry heat any day over humid sticky heat and I have lived in both climates.

[OnYourSide]

A lot depends on the specifics of the individual(s).

[OnYourSide]

Arizona just took another dive in the median income department down to 43rd in the nation:

http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/regi...df/spi0310.pdf

[azriverfan.]

Originally Posted by OnYourSide

Arizona just took another dive in the median income department down to 43rd in the nation:

http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/regi...df/spi0310.pdf

Arizona is not the Phoenix metropolitan area. Phoenix was ranked 11th in the country with the number of people earning $200,000 or more.

[lyzzard]

Originally Posted by NytoPhx

I had one acquaintence in Scottsdale, and being one year removed from college, and fed up with NYC's high cost of living and high stress

With the exception of Ahwatukee, the Biltmore and far northern Phoenix. but think twice due to the heat.

I truly wonder what the full sum of your life experience has been one whole year out of college. Places aren't high stress, people are. Have you lived anywhere else other than NYC and here? Sure doesn't seem like it to me. You should try living all over the world before truly passing judgment on how horrible a city is, and try the Middle East if you want to see what hot and dry is. Last year was rather mild for us, imo.

You have an odd choice of places to pick for being nice places in Phoenix. I think just naming those places speaks volumes of what you were expecting out here.

Originally Posted by NytoPhx

The fact that I went to a top college with a degree is certainly too difficult a concept to grasp for most of you.

Actually it's because we don't really care. Most of us don't judge people by what degree's they carry or don't carry, it's by the attitude they present themselves with. You may want to try California, I've met more of those types from there than anywhere else in the US.

Btw, it's acquaintance, and we won't miss you.