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Old 07-29-2011, 01:04 PM
 
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The actual city population is truly tiny compared to the booming suburbs.
The Pittsburgh suburbs also lost population from 2000 to 2010, for the same basic reason (the ripple effects of the steel bust).
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Old 07-29-2011, 01:52 PM
 
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Crime nationwide has gone down, every major city has cut its crime index, so that isnt the best indiciation of a city doing well. If your going to use crime, you'd have to compare it to other cities its size.
it can't hurt can it? downtown baltimore is far nicer today than it was in 2000. hell, the whole harbor area is much, much nicer from canton to harbor east to federal hill. heck, charles st was a dump between penn station and downtown. you are correct, it isn't the best indication, but I'd guess that a dramatic reduction in crime doesn't usually signal decline either
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Old 07-29-2011, 06:41 PM
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The Pittsburgh suburbs also lost population from 2000 to 2010, for the same basic reason (the ripple effects of the steel bust).
LOL It isn't the steel bust that was a very long time ago, it is development of better roads leading to areas of much lower taxes. Cranberry and soon up Rt. 28 will get more popular when 28 is done. Also Rt 22 is now better, so Murrysville is no doubt getting more popular because of the crazy taxes in Allegheny County. Pretty obvious.

Butler County, which saw its overall population rise 5.6 percent since 2000, most of that growth occurred in the Cranberry/Adams/Seven Fields area.

We all know it is all about tax, not some old steel bust from the '70s. Goodness!
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Old 07-29-2011, 06:54 PM
 
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LOL It isn't the steel bust that was a very long time ago, it is development of better roads leading to areas of much lower taxes. Cranberry and soon up Rt. 28 will get more popular when 28 is done. Also Rt 22 is now better, so Murrysville is no doubt getting more popular because of the crazy taxes in Allegheny County. Pretty obvious.

Butler County, which saw its overall population rise 5.6 percent since 2000, most of that growth occurred in the Cranberry/Adams/Seven Fields area.

We all know it is all about tax, not some old steel bust from the '70s. Goodness!
What's funny is, Pittsburgh's population decreased at a much slower rate after better roads out of the city were built.
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Old 07-29-2011, 08:51 PM
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What's funny is, Pittsburgh's population decreased at a much slower rate after better roads out of the city were built.
Yet, Cranberry is becoming its own city due to its lower taxes.
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Old 07-29-2011, 10:50 PM
 
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Yet, Cranberry is becoming its own city due to its lower taxes.
It helps that it's located at the junction of two long-haul Interstates.
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Old 07-30-2011, 04:55 AM
 
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Very thought provoking chart, Brian. Thanks.
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Old 07-30-2011, 05:00 AM
 
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LOL It isn't the steel bust that was a very long time ago, it is development of better roads leading to areas of much lower taxes.
I think you're both right. The steel bust seems like a long time ago to us because we're so close to it (if you consider the historical perspective), but if you take the long view it was only 30 or so years ago. It takes a generation or so for cities to turn around after a major loss.
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Old 07-30-2011, 07:59 AM
 
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I wouldn't anticipate a large increase in the number of the younger people staying once they start families. The people that have the money to send their kids to private schools, will of course be more likely to stay. So, I would say their will only be a modest increase in people staying once they start families.
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Old 07-30-2011, 07:09 PM
 
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Looks like the people who study this sort of thing for a profession agree with my assessment.

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The bottom line is that the bump up in 20 year olds in the city of Pittsburgh is mostly if not entirely an increase in the current enrollment at local colleges and universities.
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some college enrollment is not 20 year olds, but the vast bulk of it is, especially when you consider our large and mostly itinerant graduate student population.
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