Moving to East Liberty (maybe) (Pittsburgh, Penn: living, price, dangerous)

[Hopes]

Originally Posted by EddieOlSkool

Heh, thanks. But I also said that I grew up on the South Side before it got bad. I don't have that many street smarts.

Most of the safer neighborhoods that are in your budget will require you to go through East Liberty to get to work. The ones in the other direction are too far to walk. Whether you live in East Liberty or chose one of these other neighborhoods, you have to plan on driving or taking the bus to work since you don't want to walk through East Liberty.

Your plans to walk in the winter just aren't possible with your restriction of not wanting to walk through East Liberty since you literally work in East Liberty and you can't afford the neighborhoods within walking distance in the other direction. Your budget and your comfort level are the two factors preventing you from being able to walk to work. This is just a fact you will have to accept regardless of how you feel about Pittsburgh's winter roads.

Since Pittsburgh's neighborhoods are small, many of the decent neighborhoods are almost right next to ghettos. Keep that in mind when you're driving around and go a few blocks into something scary. For the most part, the crime stays in the ghettos.

I'm going to recommend Bloomfield, Friendship, Morningside, Highland Park, and Regent Square. All three neighborhoods are relatively flat driving to where you will be working in East Liberty.

[sealie]

Originally Posted by EddieOlSkool

Got it. You do have to admit that having only one lane and the Pittsburgh Left CAN slow the flow of traffic at least.

Only having one lane is why the Pittsburgh Left exists. Otherwise you have an entire lane of cars that can't do anything until the one in front goes left.

[Hopes]

I wasn't aware that people in Chicago knew about the Pittsburgh Left. Is it that famous?

It's curious that you have so many strong opinions about things like our traffic and weather (when you claim you don't live here or know the area), but you know nothing about our neighborhoods. Where are you getting all of this knowledge for the opinions you have about Pittsburgh?

[AaronPGH]

These threads lately seem to escalate into unnecessary feistyness. Go easy on the newcomer, guys. Eddie, I think you'll dig Pittsburgh and we're glad to have you (unless you suck, then we aren't).

[BarqCider]

im surprised folks didn't chime in that rents expensive nowadays.

I never felt weird walking along negley but at night east lib blvd is.. questionable as ive seen some highly questionable folks wondering the streets( including hookers) but those highly questionable ppl were closer to negley than highland ave tbh (which include Euclid st,etc as someone previously mentioned).

[Craziaskowboi]

Originally Posted by AaronPGH

These threads lately seem to escalate into unnecessary feistyness.

We just have to make sure they're not from the backwoods of Armstrong County first.

Anyway, East Liberty is a neighborhood in upward transition. It bottomed out back in the 1990's, but there's been a lot of reinvestment in the last 20 years or so, and it's begun to snowball. It helps to know exactly where East Liberty is too, so the real estate listings don't mislead you:


- North of Centre Avenue and Penn Avenue
- South of Stanton Avenue
- East of Aiken Avenue between Stanton Avenue and East Liberty Boulevard
- East of Negley Avenue between East Liberty Boulevard and Centre Avenue
- West of Negley Run Boulevard
- West of East Liberty Boulevard between Negley Run Boulevard and Penn Avenue

(East Liberty Boulevard curves to the south near its eastern end.)


In that area, the prime real estate is in a triangle north of Centre, south of Penn and east of Negley. North of Penn, you should be fine east of Aiken/Negley and west of Highland. The only area of East Liberty I wouldn't recommend is north of Penn and east of Highland.

[EddieOlSkool]

Originally Posted by Hopes

Most of the safer neighborhoods that are in your budget will require you to go through East Liberty to get to work. The ones in the other direction are too far to walk. Whether you live in East Liberty or chose one of these other neighborhoods, you have to plan on driving or taking the bus to work since you don't want to walk through East Liberty.

Your plans to walk in the winter just aren't possible with your restriction of not wanting to walk through East Liberty since you literally work in East Liberty and you can't afford the neighborhoods within walking distance in the other direction. Your budget and your comfort level are the two factors preventing you from being able to walk to work. This is just a fact you will have to accept regardless of how you feel about Pittsburgh's winter roads.

Since Pittsburgh's neighborhoods are small, many of the decent neighborhoods are almost right next to ghettos. Keep that in mind when you're driving around and go a few blocks into something scary. For the most part, the crime stays in the ghettos.

I'm going to recommend Bloomfield, Friendship, Morningside, Highland Park, and Regent Square. All three neighborhoods are relatively flat driving to where you will be working in East Liberty.

Not sure where I said I was scared to walk in E. Liberty.

[EddieOlSkool]

Originally Posted by Hopes

I wasn't aware that people in Chicago knew about the Pittsburgh Left. Is it that famous?

It's curious that you have so many strong opinions about things like our traffic and weather (when you claim you don't live here or know the area), but you know nothing about our neighborhoods. Where are you getting all of this knowledge for the opinions you have about Pittsburgh?

Is this supposed to be really hidden knowledge that only native Pittsburgh residents know?

[EddieOlSkool]

Originally Posted by AaronPGH

These threads lately seem to escalate into unnecessary feistyness. Go easy on the newcomer, guys. Eddie, I think you'll dig Pittsburgh and we're glad to have you (unless you suck, then we aren't).

Thanks!

[Hopes]

Originally Posted by EddieOlSkool

Not sure where I said I was scared to walk in E. Liberty.

The theme of your posts is concern about safety and if you should avoid walking through East Liberty. If you want to particular about the word "scared," we can eliminate that word. It doesn't change the fact that you will need to drive or take public transportation to work in the winter because your budget and "unwillingness" to walk through East Liberty makes it almost impossible for you to walk to work from virtually any decent neighborhood within walking distance that's in your budget.

If you are truly interested in knowing where you can safely live that isn't a ghetto (and you've already decided East Liberty is a ghetto), you should check out the neighborhoods I recommended. That's why you came here, right?